I currently don't have access to the server hosting citationstyles.org. Ammon Shepherd from CHNM installed and maintains the domain's WordPress installation, and I presume any requests for changes to the website (once we agree on what those should be) should primarily be directed to Dan Stillman. Related, I have asked Dan if he would consider moving or mirroring the (Zotero) Style Repository to/at citationstyles.org/styles (which I think would help reduce the perception of CSL as being a Zotero-specific product), but haven't received a response.
Regarding my opinion about hosting the editor on citationstyles.org: I'm impressed by the progress made by Steve. The "Search by name" and "Search by example" tools are useful and quite straightforward to use. But with regard to the Visual editor, I really would like to see some accompanying documentation before giving my full support for hosting the editor on citationstyles.org. I think it would be very useful to provide instructions on how to make some basic style modifications that demonstrate the various features (and, perhaps, also the limitations) of the editor. I know that there are already people that have used the editor with success, but I personally find the editor hard to use for anything more than small edits that don't affect the overall structure of the style (my biggest problem is that I find the left-hand column much less informative/readable than the raw XML). If your own experiences are different, it would be valuable to describe those. On a side note, I've been trying to think of ways we can improve the documentation for people that wish to edit styles. We have the specification, which is very detailed, but is based on the structure of the CSL style/locale files, explaining what each element/attribute does. I'm wondering if it makes sense to write an accompanying document that does the exact reverse: start with a list of desired goals (e.g. "how do I render an author surname in small-caps?", "how do I make a date localize?"), and then focus on the CSL XML needed to meet that goal. I like the idea, but it would be a significant undertaking, probably matching or exceeding the specification in size. Rintze On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Bruce D'Arcus <[email protected]> wrote: > I definitely think it'd be a good idea. The site is hosted by the Zotero > guys. Am not sure whether we need their help to get it setup (perhaps not > because no db), or whether Rintze could do it (with help)? > > On Oct 10, 2012 7:00 AM, "Carles Pina" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Here at Mendeley we are working to integrate the CSL editor with our >> desktop application. >> >> But I still think that would make sense to have an instance of the CSL >> editor which one is not reference manager specific. In some place like >> http://citationstyles.org/editor >> >> Reference managers could send the users to this CSL editor instance >> instead of the http://steveridout.com/csl/visualEditor/ . And maybe >> Steve Ridout would like to not host it endless :-) >> >> I feel that it's important to keep the editor used by a wide >> community, to get feedback and ideas to improve it, bugs, etc. and >> also to build a community around it to see what next could happen. >> >> I'm happy to assist or install the editor in some server (I've done in >> a couple of test servers here). It requires an Apache, PHP server. >> Mysql not needed. The editor is mainly all done in Javascript. It's >> not complicated to install. If you want some help just write to me in >> private (instructions >> >> https://github.com/citation-style-editor/csl-editor-demo-site/blob/master/README.md >> but some experience may be handy). >> >> Is this possible? Does some of you think that could be useful? >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Carles Pina | Software Engineer >> http://www.mendeley.com/profiles/Carles-Pina/ >> >> Mendeley Limited | London, UK | www.mendeley.com >> Registered in England and Wales | Company Number 6419015 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM >> Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly >> what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app >> Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> xbiblio-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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