Hi Ryan, Yep -- IBM's approach to Stream is part of what motivated my post. At our site, I'm not sure we have too much interest in using Stream in production (kinda hoping Rocky Linux works out for that), but Stream would appear to offer an opportunity to get RHEL support out more quickly for software like xCAT, which of course also benefits anything downstream of RHEL (Lenovo seem to be embracing Stream a bit more for this, looking at Jarrod's recent posts).
We also use Spectrum Scale at our site (apologies that Scale is off-topic for this list) but there again IBM seem to be sticking to RHEL for testing/development, which as you say is perhaps surprising given IBM's ownership of RedHat. Would any IBMers like to comment? :-) Cheers, Matt On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 10:30:42PM +0000, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:30:42 +0000 > From: Ryan Novosielski <novos...@rutgers.edu> > To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] xCAT and CentOS 8 Streaming > x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) > Reply-To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > > I had the same thought before I read your e-mail; I thought this was sort of > the whole point. Testing on RHEL would seem to be the worst of both worlds: > problems aren’t fixed before they’d affect an RHEL install, and fixes on > CentOS would then also be delayed. > > What strikes me as even stranger about this is that IBM owns RedHat and also > at least originally developed xCAT (not clear to me how involved they are > now, though I see Nathan has an IBM e-mail address), so I guess you’d think > at least strategy related to these somewhere between 1-3 organizations, > depending on how you count, would be clear/not confusing. > > > On Jan 5, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Matt Ismail <matthew.ism...@warwick.ac.uk> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Nate, > > > > Would it not make sense to focus development/testing efforts on CentOS > > Stream, in order to have earlier xCAT support for the next (minor) > > release of RHEL? I could be wrong, but that's what I had thought part of > > what CentOS Stream was supposed to be for, i.e. a development target for > > upcoming RHEL... > > > > Cheers, > > Matt > > > > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Nathan A Besaw wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:01:42 -0500 > >> From: Nathan A Besaw <bes...@us.ibm.com> > >> To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> Subject: Re: [xcat-user] xCAT and CentOS 8 Streaming > >> X-Mailer: IBM Notes Release 9.0.1FP7 Octobe4, 2013 > >> Reply-To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> > >> > >> SS, > >> > >> Prior to the announcement of CentOS Linux changing to CentOS Stream, the > >> xCAT core team tested primarily with RHEL with minimal testing with CentOS. > >> In most cases, any work needed to enable a release of RHEL would allow the > >> associated CentOS release to function with minimal extra effort. > >> The xCAT core team will continue to focus our testing efforts on xCAT > >> integration with RHEL, but now that the release order of RHEL and CentOS is > >> reversed, it is more likely that xCAT users of CentOS Stream will encounter > >> problems first, before they have been addressed during RHEL testing. > >> This is an area where the xCAT core team can use help from the xCAT > >> community going forward. If support for CentOS Stream is of interest to the > >> xCAT community, hopefully the community will be able to assist in resolving > >> issues related to CentOS Stream. > >> Ideally xCAT will continue to informally support CentOS Stream, but how > >> well it is supported will be determined by community involvement and how > >> large the gap is between CentOS Stream and RHEL. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Nate > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Sajesh Singh <ssi...@amnh.org> > >> To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> Date: 12/23/2020 06:04 PM > >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [xcat-user] xCAT and CentOS 8 Streaming > >> > >> > >> > >> Good day. Is there any documentation on what the supportability of xCAT > >> will be on CentOS 8 Streaming once CentOS 8.3 has reached end of life? > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> SS > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xCAT-user mailing list > >> xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xCAT-user mailing list > >> xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xCAT-user mailing list > > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing list > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user _______________________________________________ xCAT-user mailing list xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user
