On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 22:29 +0000, David Lawley wrote:
> My new generation GPS's such as a late model Garmin, and a leadtek
> blutooth GPS seem to get a lock indoors just fine, whilst all my older
> models cannot.
> 
Interesting. 

Can you post details of the GPS that does work indoors, especially what
receiver chipset it uses, and what your house is made of?

My most recent unit is a Binatone B.350, which uses the Sirf Atlas III
or IV GPS chipset. My house has double glazed windows 13" masonry walls
and a tiled, foil-lined roof: not exactly the sort of place you'd expect
a GPS signal to penetrate!

Martin


> Dave L
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: mar...@gregorie.org
> > To: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:20:59 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Help
> >
> > On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 14:44 -0400, Bill Hanson wrote:
> >
> > > It seems
> > > that the GPS on the phone does not work in my office - it worked when I
> > > started it last night while driving - I will test it again tonight.
> > >
> > That isn't surprising. In general a GPS won't work indoors because the
> > satellite signal is very weak and doesn't generally penetrate into
> > buildings. None of my GPS units (a couple of Garmin GPS II+ handhelds, a
> > Garmin GPS 35 'blind receiver', a Tomtom satnav and a Binatone B.350
> > satnav) will work indoors and I don't expect my newly acquired RedBox
> > FLARM to do so either.
> >
> > However, a phone can find out where it is, though at lower accuracy, as
> > long as it has a signal and is running an application that can get the
> > information from the network. That only works because the network knows
> > which cell your phone is in and where its cell towers are. This is such
> > low accuracy information that it would be useless to XCSoar and hence
> > would be ignored even if the phone makes it available.
> >
> > > I am not sure if it has to have movement to work???
> > >
> > A GPS system knows where it is if it can see three or more satellites
> > and its height if it can see 5 or more. It can do this whether its
> > stationary or moving. However, it has to be moving to know where North
> > is.
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
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