This is how most of us use PDAs in a competition or simple recreational flight:

- disable all airspace --> to speed up computation and get rid of any 
unnecessary (sometimes annoying) information
- enable all prohibited areas and airspaces what are always on (nuclear 
powerstation, TMA...)
- turn on further airspaces based on the daily briefing (usually MTMA...)
- some glider airspaces are depending on wind direction, needs to be changed in 
flight

Good summary and help by an enthusiastic paraglider pilot:
http://www.galatech.hu/pg/dir/GMairsp/map_Hungary-all-zones_for-XC-paragliding.htm

Today we have almost free airspace:
http://www.galatech.hu/pg/dir/NapiLegterInfo/terkep.php?adat=D20120324.gpx

Regards,

/Janos

http://web.t-online.hu/ethbrja/

-----Original Message-----
From: martin.kopp...@gmx.de [mailto:martin.kopp...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:11 PM
To: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] XCSoar 6.3 beta3 released

I do not think we should ignore airspaces forever. That is going to lead to 
trouble at some point. The time for hiding or ignoring should be limited. I see 
the ignore/hide request as very similar to "ack day" only it removes the 
airspace from the map for today. Kind of declutters the map in the best case. 

Viele Grüße,
Martin Kopplow

Mobil +49 171 7984740

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Am 23.03.2012 um 20:34 schrieb Rob Dunning <r...@raspberryridgesheepfarm.com>:

> A couple considerations in designing an "ignore airspace forever" 
> feature might be:
> 
> 1) when would the pilot use this feature (e.g. 
> would he ever need this while in the air or would it be set up prior 
> to flight)?  Does the pilot need to be able to review / edit his 
> "ignored" airspaces?
> 2) what in these pilots' flying environments causes the need for this 
> feature (e.g. where I fly, it would not be useful).  By knowing the 
> root cause, perhaps we can find a different approach to solving the 
> problem.  Perhaps the feature could somehow be "automatic" for 
> example.
> 
> This would be a good topic for the User Experience forum.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> At 11:52 AM 03/23/2012, Tobias Bieniek wrote:
>> It would be great if you could also suggest a user interface for that 
>> feature. It needs to be easy to use and simple to understand. I 
>> wouldn't want to add any more features to XCSoar that are hard to use 
>> or that nobody really understands without reading 200 pages of our 
>> manual before.
>> 
>> Turbo
>> 
>> 
>> Am 23. März 2012 15:45 schrieb Luke Szczepaniak <l...@silentflight.ca>:
>>> There are instances where the airspace
>> changes on a daily basis and editing
>>> a file daily can be hazardous (my fingers are too fat ;) ) - this is 
>>> a good feature request
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dan Marotta 
>>> <dcmaro...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> May I suggest you edit your SUA file to remove the unwanted 
>>>> airspaces and save as a different file.  Then you can load the file 
>>>> you need for the flight.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that I can change map files in flight without any problem 
>>>> and I would assume that you can also change the SUA data, as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/23/2012 8:30 AM, Istvan Csonka wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Tobias,
>>>>> I am not going to remove completly any Airspace, but at least the 
>>>>> 60% of the total Airspaces are irrelevant in 80% of flights, but 
>>>>> sometimes we need to scwitch-on some of them for some time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Istvan CSONKA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Tobias Bieniek<tobias.bien...@gmx.de>
>>>>> To:   Istvan Csonka/Hungary/IBM@IBMHU
>>>>> Cc:   xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> Date: 03/23/2012 14:01
>>>>> Subject:      Re: [Xcsoar-user] XCSoar 6.3 beta3 released
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> if there is a way for it I am soory and please let me know, if 
>>>>>> not please consider this feature in the final release.
>>>>> Hi Istvan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> right now the only way is to manually remove the airspaces from 
>>>>> your airspace file. Could you explain in what situation you would 
>>>>> need to hide those airspaces completely? Unfortunatly we can't 
>>>>> include this feature in XCSoar 6.3 anymore since our feature list 
>>>>> is "frozen" until we release the final version. After that has 
>>>>> happened we will start developing new features for XCSoar 6.4 and 
>>>>> we might consider your proposal. As for all bug reports or feature 
>>>>> requests: please use our bug tracker 
>>>>> (http://xcsoar.org/develop/new_ticket.html) so that we don't forget about 
>>>>> this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Turbo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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