imo, code generation would solve both problems... atm I'm looking at how 
@ejb:aggregate or similar could be used with dataobjects to
achieve a similar purpose.  That way you get all the benefits...

cheesr
dim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects


> Yes, i was referring more to the use of reflection rather than the xml
> stuff.
> So far, I have been successful in using XDoclet value objects, so I am
> looking forward to the new release.
> Thanks, for your insight.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vincent Harcq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Steve Knight'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects
>
>
> > I am not too in favour of XML in entity bean.
> > XML is sloooow : the writer talks about perf in creation of the XML.
> > The problem is on the parsing of it : really really too slow.
> > As the writer mention you also loose the object view in the client...
> >
> > Generating classes _or_ auto xml (or Map or ...) are opposite approach
> > to the goal of simplifying the developement in J2EE world.
> >
> > I prefer using generated stuffs by a tool (well xdoclet here) than
> > reflection, xml... kind of things.
> > It is faster at run time.  Period.
> > There was an article on javaworld some months ago (or maybe o reilly??)
> > describing the difference of approach better than I am able to do.
> >
> > It is a debate really and I don't believe there is a definitive answer.
> >
> > But be sure we will be able to do exactly the same in terms of
> > functionnality in Value Object that what this article do.
> > We can also give the same output using generated toString and it will be
> > faster at run time than DOM, reflection stuffs.  Hehe that is all the
> > power of xdoclet.
> >
> > The trick is clever though. I don't want to criticize that.  I just give
> > my own opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> > > Of Steve Knight
> > > Sent: jeudi 21 mars 2002 17:52
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects
> > >
> > >
> > > Mmmm, Xjavadoc.
> > > sounds sweet...I am anxiously anticipating.
> > >
> > > By the way, what are your thoughts on the Dynamic Value
> > > Objects article on
> > > TheServeSide.com:
> > > http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=CMP2
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Vincent Harcq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'Steve Knight'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:11 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yep that was he has done.
> > > > Please wait and you will get xjavadoc included for the same
> > > price ;)
> > > > Xjavadoc is far more important atm. Regards
> > > > Vincent
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> > > Behalf Of Steve
> > > > > Knight
> > > > > Sent: jeudi 21 mars 2002 15:55
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mostly, I am interested in the patches involving the new
> > > "volatile"
> > > > > tag and the fixes for the duplicate variable definition
> > > problem. I
> > > > > guess I will have to wait until next week  :(
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Vincent Harcq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Steve Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:40 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-user] ValueObjects
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The marcus one ?
> > > > > > Not before next week I am afraid :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Steve Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > > > > any idea on when the new patches for ValueObjects will be
> > > > > commited
> > > > > > > to CVS? I would like to start trying them out to see if
> > > > > they solve
> > > > > > > some of my problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > >
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