Now that is a comprehensive, clear and cogent response! I'm humbled by my
newbieness :-)
thanks very much Andrew. You really are the wise old hermit!
Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-user] session bean abstract class


> A wise old hermit known only as Brian McSweeney
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> once said:
>
> > but some of the beans - eg the session beans - in xpetstore have the
> > ejbCreates generated for them, but the entity beans don't seem to have
> > this done. What I think needs to be clear, is what defines this
> > behaviour in xdoclet.
>
> The EJB spec :-)
>
> > Is it just as simple as:
> >
> > xdoclet generates defaul creates, ejbCreates etc for session beans but
> > not for entity beans?
>
> Stateless session beans *must have* (only) a single no-argument ejbCreate
> method.  Because the spec mandates this, XDoclet will add it automatically
> if there isn't one.  Obviously (!), create methods with arguments are a
> no-no, since passing in information implies some form of state and the
> bean is stateless...
>
> Stateful session beans don't *have* to have a no-arg ejbCreate, so long as
> there's at least one create method.  It's okay to just have create methods
> with arguments, so we can't automatically add a no-arg one in case you
> actually intend there not to be one.  Up till EJB 1.1 I guess we *could*
> have checked that there's at least one ejbCreate method in there, and add
> a no-arg one if not, but since EJB 2.0 they don't even need to be named
> ejbCreate, just begin with it e.g. ejbCreateUsingMyData(MyData x) is okay.
> So having the template check <XDtMethod:ifDoesntHaveMethod
> name="ejbCreate"> won't work any more...
>
> With entity beans, you *don't have* to have *any* ejbCreate methods at
> all; entity beans are representations of persistent data, and it's
> perfectly okay to have that data created solely through some external
> mechanism e.g. pre-loading tables of standing data (you can still access
> it through EJBs via their finders).  Since it's valid to have no create
> methods, XDoclet won't add any.  However, the spec does say there must be
> a corresponding ejbPostCreate method for each create method, so XDoclet
> will add those if you don't include them.
>
> Can't remember offhand about MessageDrivenBeans (not used them much
> myself).  Since they're basically stateless beans that respond to message
> events, I'd guess the same applies as stateless session EJBs i.e. must
> have only a no-arg ejbCreate.  But we don't generate a subclass for them
> anyway, so it's a moot point.
>
>
> Andrew.
>
>
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