On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 8:57 AM Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11 2023 at 19:24, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> > > Furthermore, cursory testing that Thomas did for the Linux topology work
> > > demonstrates that it is broken anyway for reasons unrelated to ACPI 
> > > parsing.
> > >
> > > Even furthermore, it's an area of the Xen / dom0 boundary which is
> > > fundamentally broken for non-PV cases, and undocumented for the PV case,
> > > hence why it's broken in Linux.
> > >
> > > Physical CPU Hotplug does not pass the bar for being anything more than
> > > experimental.  It's absolutely not tech-preview level because the only
> > > demo it has had in an environment (admittedly virtual) which does
> > > implement the spec in a usable way demonstrates that it doesn't function.
> > >
> > > The fact no-one has noticed until now shows that the feature isn't used,
> > > which comes back around full circle to the fact that Intel never made it
> > > work and never shipped it.
> >
> > OTOH it _is_ used in virtualization. KVM supports it and it just
> > works. That's how I found out that XEN explodes in colourful ways :)
> 
> It should be pointed out that there's currently a start-up selling a
> product that specifically runs Xen under cloud providers -- Exostellar
> (was Exotanium) [1].  If cloud providers do use ACPI hotplug to allow
> on-the-fly adjustments of the number of vcpus, Exostellar will
> probably want support at some point.  (Perhaps it would be good to
> rope them into testing / maintaining it.)

Supporting CPU hotplug in a nested virtualization setting is a different
proposition compared to supporting Physical CPU Hotplug. Typically
virtual firmware (hypervisor-provided firmware) has less unexpected
behaviors compared to baremetal firmware.

Could you make the distinction in SUPPORT.md?

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