Hi Phillip,

        You are missing a point here.  Or points.
                Does a font have the glyph?
                How to access the glyph?
                What is the easiest way to input the glyph?
                Readability of the input source.

        Even though we have unicode not all font have the
        complete code pages of unicode, so that causes a problem
        in itself!! Second we would 8^2 commands for describing to access
        all. This would be optimal, but who can remember them all and
        readability and input becomes tiresome!!

        I can remember when I started out with TeX and hated having write
        "a for ä on my german keyboard! Then came inputenc. That was nice.
        Got rid of a lot of problems with other styles and packages not working
        well or breaking when you used "a. I still had problems because I was 
using
        Apple and had to be careful when passing my files to others on PCs. 
        LaTeX could handle the file, but the others could not readily edit the 
file
        for lack of a editor that could handle MacRoman without converting the 
file,
        but then the inputenc had to be changed!
        Then there was the problem of different font metrics depending on where
        you got them from! 
        Then there was also, the problem of multiple languages in one text. Boy,
        did the input become cumbersome and unreadable for the no geek LaTeXer.

        Well, unicode and Xe(La)TeX has gotten rid of most of the problems of 
readability
        and input. 

        Since unicode is so vast and the fonts have become rich, certain things 
still remain.
        They are not an artifact of TeX nor unicode, but the problem of input 
method of the
        system you are on and the editor that you use. As far as universal 
keyboards is concerned
        there are programmable keyboards that have LED-keys show you the 
glyphs/characters and
        change!! Yet, you still have TO KNOW where to find the glyph. 

        Remember, when you wanted certain characters you had to enter ALT 
control codes to
        get the character that was not on the keyboard. Well, you can always 
use key mapping
        and bindings to help. If you have a good editor there is also code 
substitution or auto-complete
        so that the proper glyph shows up or the proper Xe(La)TeX code.

        Xe(La)TeX, and TeX in general,  is highly complex and flexible you have 
to have some
        indepth knowledge to use it with ease, comfort and competence. If that 
knowledge is to hard or cumbersome
        to learn then one should stay with WYSIWYG systems. 

        The people working on Xe(La)Tex have done an excellent job and are 
working hard to make things
        as easy as possible, yet certain things they can not change or make 
much easier.

        regards
                Keith.

                

Am 13.09.2010 um 17:46 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd):

> 
> 
> Michiel Kamermans wrote:
> 
>> When switching from LaTeX to XeLaTeX, the first thing to realise is that
>> in XeLaTeX, you write your text in unicode, relying on the unicode way
>> of representing characters and character sequences. As such, the best
>> choice is to not "access glyphs" but to just put them directly in your
>> document: just use €, ſ, etc.
> 
> Much as I sympathise with, and understand, this Unicode-oriented
> approach, it seems to me that in real life, and in the absence
> of a universal keyboard which can conveniently and easily be used
> to enter the myriad human languages that Unicode contains, the
> "traditional" TeX way of entering diacritics (and characters
> beyond those found on an English keyboard) is actually by
> far the most useful and usable.  If XeTeX does not currently have
> a macro set which allows all such characters to be conveniently
> entered mnemonically (and \char "0123 doesn't count as mnemonic !),
> then I do think that there is a clear case for its creation.
> 
> Philip Taylor
> 
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