On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> Personally, I'd like the [XFree86] in the subject to take a hike.
> It's totally unnecessary.  People use it for sorting email into
> folders, but GNU mailman managed mailing lists contain another
> header which is just for this purpose.  In procmailesque:
>
> :0:
> ^X-BeenThere:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> xfree86

Yes, that is better than [XFree86], I totally agree with that.

If [XFree86] disappears (which I hope it will), advance notice should of
course be given, as Andrew says.

[UNSUBSCRIBED] was not essential -- the idea was just to /have/ a visible
indication that the sender was not on the list.  What kind it is is not as
important.

> in a massive flamewar that goes on for 3 days to a week until
> ends when someone invokes Godwin's law?

What about the comp.arch equivalent?  "Alpha!"

> Well, since this similar issue came up on the devel@ mailing list
> last week, I thought what the heck, why not mention it here too.
> ;o)

A pity it hasn't been folded into the XFree86 list yet.

> On the [UNSUBSCRIBED] idea - again, not needed in the subject
> line.  Why not just have the CGI webform add to the top of the
> body of the message:  "This message was submitted via web form,
> and the user may not be subscribed.  Responders should keep the
> poster in the carbon copy field to insure they receive responses"
> or something to that effect perhaps.

It would certainly satisfy me.

> As for the [listname] damage, I've got a procmail rule that
> removes that stuff from any mailing list on the receiving end
> rather than the sending end.  So, I'm ultimately happy either
> way.  ;o)

I used to have a procmail rule that cleaned up emails from sourceforge
that didn't follow the right quoted printable rule in the added
advertisment so Pine wouldn't barf on them ;)

[url instead of email address in case of errors]

> That is a GREAT idea!  In fact, it is so good, I think I'm going
> to patch up our X server to do just that in the future.  If the
> XFree86 team would accept some vendor/distro neutral patches that
> would enable any vendor to override those messages and point
> people to elsewhere, I'd be more than glad to whip up such a
> solution and submit it.

Thank you :)

That should do a lot to both serve customers of distributions and other
users and to keep down the noise level on this list.

-Peter

PS: Wish I could concentrate for more than an hour at a time, otherwise I
would have written the patch already :)

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