Dave Pawson wrote: > At 17:50 12/12/2001 -0500, Larry White wrote: > >I assumed that I was missing a jar in my classpath, but was unable to > >confirm that anything was missing. And I can't find any reference to > >this file in either the dbxml documentation or source code. > > Given the fact that the command line interface is so lame, > I'd have hoped that the classpath additions were minimal, > but I too spent 30 mins adding to the classpath without luck. > I still had a 'class not found' list as long as your arm.
Yaknow, there's always a remedy if you think the command line interface is lame. You could fix it, or rewrite it. If you're using the scripts available, Windows or UNIX, and you XINDICE_HOME directory is set correctly, you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get any of the command line scripts to work. The jars that are in java/lib should automagically be added to your classpath for each call. > I still think the documentation is as important as the implementation. There's a remedy for that, too :) > Trying not to sound *too* critical, > Regards DaveP Well, Gee, you could have fooled me. I'm gonna say something personal now, and this is not directed to you specifically Dave, but to our user community. For over a year, Kimbro and I have worked our asses of to develop dbXML. There have been people who have contributed on occasion, and for that, we are very grateful, but for the most part, our user community has used the project, made requests and/or complained about it, but have left it up to the two of us to do something about it. We're two people, and this project is a major undertaking, so you do the math. Yes, it's a database, it's not something that's easy to write or maintain, but we don't need people who know the database internals to make valuable contributions. We need documentation, we need better command-line tools, and better scripts for proper building and behavior on different operating systems. These things aren't much to ask for from this community. Now that we're part of the Apache project, I suspect that we'll get increased contributions from those people already working on other Apache projects, but I fear that our user community will continue to do as you've done, which is use the project, make requests and/or complain about things, but leave it up to the Apache people to fix things. One of the biggest criticisms of projects like Xalan and Xerces is that they're company-run and that nobody outside of those company's contributes to the projects. Well, there are only three people working on Xalan, and I don't think they're turning people away from making contributions. Niether will we. We're at the start of something great. We could make it great for you, our you can make it great with us. It's up to you. -- Tom Bradford - http://www.tbradford.org Developer - Apache Xindice (formerly dbXML) Maintainer - jEdit-Syntax Java Editing Bean
