Sure, I'm not telling anyone to "go away" xindice is done, but the level of activity does appear to have diminished significantly. In fact, the community that created Xindice seems to have "taken it back". Before Xindice was "xindice" it was dbXML core, and coincidentally the dbXML group was one of the driving forces behind xmldb.org. Now, dbXML 2.0 is out, the developers driving Xindice left, and the community is thin. xmldb.org is gone, it is loosely replaced by http://xmldb-org.sourceforge.net/projects.html, but even that site is somewhat out-of-date. Vadim is trying his best, but more than a few times in the last few months people have brought up the fact that this project is stalled. I hope this changes, but the question deserved an answer. Tim
________________________________ From: Neil Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 10/3/2004 8:35 PM To: xindice-users@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: XINDICE Development Status I have rarely entered these discussions but I want to second Murray. We use it in our project. It fits our needs. Our only problem with Xindice would be if it went away. One way we really appreciate Xindice is that it supports XUpdate. XQuery is a great XML database query language. However, I think it's first version is about done and they only allowed for the possibility of data modification. A version of XQuery with such a capability is surely a few years away from release. Cheers, /Neil Murray Altheim wrote: > Tim O'Brien wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>> In fact at the Xindice site, the last new is dated february 2003 >>>> (http://xml.apache.org/xindice/news.html) while the link to >>> >>> >>> XML:DB api >>> >>>> (I know the are indipendent projects, but the two are linked somewhat) >>> >>> >>>> is broken... >>>> >>>> Anybody can explain me whiere Xindice is going on? >> >> >>> From what I can see, the support under Xindice seemed to disappear >> >> around the same time dbXML version 2.0 was released. This isn't saying >> anything bad about the dbXML people (I use dbXML now), it is simply >> stating a fact. >> >> http://www.xmldb.org lapsed, it seems to have been eaten up by one of >> those mega-domain squatting organizations - this one is called >> Euroserver.org Domains. I'd be interested in knowing who owned the >> xmldb.org domain. >> >> If you take a look at the mailing list traffic, you definitely get the >> sense that the Xindice community has gone elsewhere. > > > Tim, > > You're quite welcome to make all the assumptions you like, but the > community might simply be quiet because we're either busy or have > little to say right now. That doesn't mean that we've "gone elsewhere" > or that we don't exist. The xmldb.org or dbXML mailing lists and/or > domains are orthogonal to the success or failure of Xindice. For > myself, I've been happily using Xindice 1.1 without any particular > problem or need to chat. I'm usually in lurk mode. > > The traffic on a mailing list is a very poor indicator of the health > of its associated community. Mailing list != real life, i.e., sometimes > lists are noisy because they're filled with people who little else to > do but chat away. Sometimes lists are quiet because their participants > are very busy. There's really no way to tell from the outside. The > Xerces mailing list is pretty quiet, but there are millions of people > using Xerces daily (most likely don't even know it). > > As Vadim has repeatedly said, if you're interested in some features > that Xindice doesn't have, or want to contribute in any way, you're > always quite welcome to provide code or documentation. Communities > exist via both interest and contributions. > > Murray > > ...................................................................... > Murray Altheim http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/murray/ > Knowledge Media Institute > The Open University, Milton Keynes, Bucks, MK7 6AA, UK . > > Amazon.com: How important is this presidential election in the > larger context of the Republic and its history? > Ann Coulter: Insofar as the survival of the Republic is threatened > by the election of John Kerry, I'd say 2004 is as big > as it gets. > Amazon.com: Is there one standout issue, and why does it make a > difference? What are the most crucial issues? > Ann Coulter: I repeat: The survival of the Republic is threatened by > the election of John Kerry. I'd say that's the big one. > ... Amazon.com: What would a Kerry administration mean? > Ann Coulter: Quite possibly the destruction of the Republic. > > "Nasty Days are Here", Orcinus, by David Neiwert > > http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2004_09_26_dneiwert_archive.html#109651925861192967 > >
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