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I've created an online community called "XML EDI Experts".
Please join the discussion!
With the message board, you can view discussion folders quickly in the
left-hand column and read up to 20 messages at a time. You can even attach
files (such as pictures and programs) directly to messages -- just like
e-mail. It's fast, easy, and efficient.
As the Forum "Host," I control the specific features of the Forum. The
other
options include real-time Chat, voice chat, and polls. I can also choose to
make it public or private.
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I'm sorry but I've seen this twaddle all before - SIX YEARS AGO when I
started
and ran the Magic Users Group - we had over 1,000 people on the list 
server - and all this opportunist crap was banded around for weeks, 
wasting everyones time and generally stirring up nothing worthwhile.
Alternate listservers - come sign up here - there.

Yeah - here we go again - forums and chat rooms and all that nonsense.

So let's STOP THIS right now.   I even took a vote of 1,000 people and 
had Excel Spreadsheets of rated voting on a raft of proposals.  There
result was NO CHANGE!  The listserver IS the preferred medium.

The bottom line is this - a listserver based setup is what works - and this
has been proved by a huge success we have had in developing XML/edi
to this point today.  William et al just don't want to admit this is
possible - 
there surely must be a mistake here?

There is NOT.  The fundamental reason a listserver works and chat rooms
and forums don't is because listservers are:

a) A passive tool that does not require pro-active entry into chatrooms et
al.

b) People derive immense value from the information they receive and
     therefore want to continue to participate.

c) They are a quintessentially democratic process that allows everyone
      equal voice - without people thinking there is a 'private' channel 
      somewhere in a unlisted forum.... et al.

I'm sure William et al will now proceed to post 10, 20, 40, 80 messages
hotly debating all this, and trying to prove why their powder washes 
whiter.   I'm not buying this nonsense - and I hope noone else is 
either.   The hidden agenda here - is pretty thinly disguised.

So - let's get back to some normal traffic here.   I'm looking
forward to the upcoming meeting in New York at the DevCon2000
show, and hope as many of our members here can make it to the
meeting on Tuesday.  Real participation is what counts.

Anyone out there up to running a local group meeting in New York
on a regular basis after the show?

And I for one want to work hard with the excellent staff at DISA to
offer a lot more to the XML/edi Group and really move our
group forward to the next level or three!

See you all there.

Thanks, DW.


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