Well said, Steve. As for "peace, love and
happiness"...being a personal friend of yours (you may
not have wanted me to add that bit), I know just HOW
MUCH you embrace the values of the 60s ;)
Peace out,
Thomas
--- Steve Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A mail list is a lot like the First Amendment. They
> are both about freely expressing one's opinion and
> commenting on the opinions of other. The beauty of
> both of these is that they create an environment in
> which ideas can evolve and we can all benefit. We
> are free to evaluate data for ourselves. This occurs
> by:
>
> 1. exchange of ideas
> 2. brainstorming new ideas
> 3. debating ideas
> 4. criticizing ideas we consider to be invalid or
> flawed somehow
>
> This fourth point is just as necessary as the rest.
> It can ruffle feathers, however.
> Three solutions I see for the ruffles are:
>
> 1. Have a thicker skin (from Rachel). Don't take
> sarcasm as personal. Instead see it as professional
> roasting (humor involved) from one's peer(s). The
> most effective response to such sarcasm is an appeal
> to reason on the issues. Then you look far better
> than the sarcastic attacker especially if his ideas
> are flawed somehow. Keep your cool = come out
> ahead.
>
> 2. Better Netiquet all around. I for one could
> improve here. I have on occasion in times past been
> hotly (perhaps harshly so) sarcastic on some points
> I thought invalid. I think I could have made my
> sarcasms gentler and more humorous and thus more
> effective in debunking some hype.
>
> 3. Keeping a free and un-moderated open forum like
> this takes a definite level of tolerance all around.
> Survive the bad to keep gleaning the good. And
> there is much good here.
>
> That said, then yes, let's move straight into
> production without further comment.
>
> I believe we had a great battle of ideas on the Need
> for Speed thread up through the middle of this week.
> Dick and Mark, both did a excellent job on
> competing ideas as well as the perspectives from
> many others. The two myths that I hope we have now
> debunked are:
>
> 1. XML is somehow a silver bullet, and EDI is to
> disapear soon.
>
>
>
> At 04:50 PM 7/28/00 -0700, Brian Curtis wrote:
> >Or... Maybe not. In any case, I'm not going
> anywhere... You can't get rid of
> >me. So, lets move on people. This list is
> supposed to be productive... I
> >don't see production.
>
> Steve Bollinger 408-853-8478
> Cisco Systems B2B Service Logistics Pjt
>
>
>
>
>
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