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From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:52 PM
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Subject: RE: IS XML dying?
Anthony,You make some valid points, such as the fact that companies with faulty business models eventually fail ... but we knew that before the XML cult started, right? It is probably not that your trading partners "won't touch XML", its that they can't agree on which vocabulary to standardize on. XML, after all, is just structured text, and I dare to say that they have surely accepted structured text somewhere in their enterprise(s).Is B2C and B2B dying? Think carefully about that question, and don't use the failure of poorly thought out business models enter the equation. B2B is the same as it has always been, maybe there is not enough '<' and '>' in the average B2B transaction...but B2B is still there and remains to be there. B2C will never go away - it is the bedrock of our (western) civilization. You might just as well say that "Capitalism is dying because Amazon.com laid off a bunch of employees.".As a founder of a B2B XML blah blah blah company, I welcome this shakeout. I am not happy about what has happened to the stock market, but I think the market coming back to reality will boost our potential customer's threshold for change. If they see that what is left in the market are companies with a good vision, good solutions to complex problems, and the ability to support their implementation decisions into the future, they will adopt next-generation solutions such as XML messaging and data storage for at least some of their processes. They will feel comfortable addressing the broad problems associated with B2S&MB (Business to Small & Medium Business) in ways that integrate with their legacy B2B applicationsOne last thing: Did you at any stage in your career actually think XML was a magic problem solver?
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Matthew MacKenzie
VP Research & Development
XML Global Technologies, Inc.-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Beecher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 8, 2001 4:44 PM
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Subject: IS XML dying?
Sounds like a radical statement, but let me clarify:The dot com world has been gutted. Dot coms are dying left and right. Much of the investment money driving XML initiatives was living on the B2B hype which was younger brother to the B2C. Now B2C is dying and it would seem that B2B is going along with it.
You also see XML initiatives failing, like that Dell hub that shut down the other day.
None of our trading partners are interested in touching XML for another 2 to 3 years until the standards settle. Noone wants to invest in an XML product, because it may be useless next year.
Is the truth finally being shaken out - That XML is not a "Magic Problem Solver" and that the real issue is and always was the differing capabilities of different backend systems?
Anthony Beecher
Manager of Vendor Systems
buy.com
work: 949-389-2246
page: 877-649-8519
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