Bob: Are you now the listserve nanny? I'm sure Mr. Lyon would be capable of handling his own hecklers, but only if he were at all willing to elaborate what he means by "ebXML implemented on a chip ... for about $150."
Mike Rawlins quite understandably took this to mean a complete ebXML system burnt onto a microprocessor chip, and reasonably expressed doubts of that ever being done - calling it a "fantasy." See http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-dev/200204/msg00200.html. From then on, I couldn't understand a thing Mr. Lyon said, though I got the impression he means simply that ebXML could "*run on*" a chip. Since all software in my experience - and I'm no technical heavyweight, mind you - that runs on a general purpose computer (from PC to Mainframe) does indeed *run on* a chip, I don't see the point Lyon is making. Perhaps it's just the language barrier. William J. Kammerer Novannet, LLC. +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhaugen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'William J. Kammerer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "XML/edi Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, 03 May, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: XML Activity in Asia-Pacific - clarification David, Do you really mean censorship - in the sense of messages killed - or just ignorant flames? The leadership of ebXML and UN/CEFACT includes highly respected and influential participants from Asia. Leading ebXML and UN/CEFACT participants are very aware of leading-edge implementation projects in Korea. I think who you get sometimes on ebxml-dev is ignorant flamers. XML-EDI is the same way some times. I have been insulted every which way on both lists. If you know of actual censorship going on on ebxml-dev, let me know and I will follow up with the perpetrators. If you have particularly offensive flames, send them to me. Thanks, Bob Haugen ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'William J. Kammerer' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; XML/edi Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: RE: XML Activity in Asia-Pacific - clarification XML/EDI is a good list with no censorship that I know of. However, ebXML-dev do appear to censor pro-Asian development out of their list. Maybe they wish to keep all development in Europe and America. I can understand that. They probably feel that they are going to a lot of effort to develop specifications and the result is that companies in Asia are making up the designs and producing the products for less than is possible in Western countries. The problem is that they are delaying the inevitable which is ebXML implemented on a chip which will be available for about $150. We know of one company in Asia/Pacific who are tooling for this very thing. The result will be that ebXML will truly be affordable "for every company no matter what their size" like the ebXML home page promises. Problem is that that wasn't really the idea of ebXML which is to keep ebXML solely in the hands of large companies. So, once again, there never was any claim about xml-edi being censored. "ebxml-dev" was the list that I was talking about and it's quite possible that myself and quite a few other people are wrong. All I know is that there is some pretty spectacular technology about to come out of Asia. We'll have to wait and see if those ebXML chips are going to be any good. David Lyon Product Manager www.globaltradedesk.com ------ XML/edi Group Discussion List ------ Homepage = http://www.XMLedi-Group.org Unsubscribe = send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leave the subject and body of the message blank Questions/requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To receive only one message per day (digest format) send the following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], (leave the subject line blank) digest xmledi-group your-email-address To join the XML/edi Group complete the form located at: http://www.xmledi-group.org/xmledigroup/mail1.htm
