Ed,

I was involved in the convergence of SOAP and ebXML's Message Service and
offer my personal viewpoint of the differences:


Function/Feature        WEB Services    ebXML MS    Comment
                         (SOAP 1.1)
----------------        ------------    --------        -------------------------
Reliable Delivery                       NO                 YES

Defines Security Model          NO                 YES

Supports attachments            NO                 YES  The SOAP spec does not
                                                                        support 
attachments. An
                                                                        ancillary 
spec, SOAP
                                                                        with 
Attachments provides
                                                                        this 
functionality.

Native support for              NO                 YES  Binary objects must be
Binary "payloads"                                                       base64 encoded 
in SOAP

Native support for              NO                 YES  SOAP does not allow Document
all XML features and                                            Type Declarations or
document types                                                  processing 
instructions in
                                                                        the SOAP 
payload container
                                                                        (BODY 
ELEMENT). ebMS places
                                                                        all payloads 
in separate
                                                                        containers, 
which are MIME
                                                                        aware and can 
contain almost
                                                                        any digital 
data. XML
                                                                        containing 
these items must
                                                                        be base64 
encoded.

Supports RPC mode                       YES                YES

Method to identify              root element   Uses Service and Action
remote procedures                       of BODY    header elements to identify RPC to
                                                           invoke

Supports Asynchronous           NO                 YES
Responses

WSDL support                    YES                YES

Registry Repository             YES                YES

Trading Partner Profile         NO                 YES
Support

Interoperability Testing        YES                YES
Completed

Commercially available          YES                YES

Freeware available              YES                YES

Endorsed by UN/CEFACT           NO                 YES

Endorsed by DISA                        NO                 YES

Software available from IBM     YES                YES      [1] B2B/M2M

Software available from SUN     YES                YES  JAXM

Software available from         YES                 NO
Microsoft

[1] http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/sj/412/dias.pdf



Dick Brooks
Systrends, Inc
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Tempe, Arizona 85284
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:38 PM
To: XMLEDI Group
Subject: RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration
Webc ast.


Hi David,

        This is very timely.  However, I have an immediate need to clarify
the relationship between web services and ebXML.  Advertising the fact that
there is a relationship between XML, web services and SAP commitment to both
will do little to convince my colleagues that ebXML is the way forward!  Do
you have any clarifying articles/statements on the relationship of web
services and ebXML.  The problem areas include resolving the relationship
between ebXML registry and UDDI.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   October 15, 2002 2:06 PM
To:     XMLEDI Group
Subject:        [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration
Webcast.

XML Global is providing a promotional webcast tomorrow,

October 16th at 1:00pm ET (10:00am PT)

The topic is integration in the context of SAP systems.

Overview:

How are you taking advantage of XML and Web Services - these
new developments in the world of e-business? How can you
apply both to your advantage and bring them together in
an integration solution?

Register at the following link:

 http://www.xmlglobal.com/news/webinars/transform4.jsp

Thanks,

DW,
VP Business Development,
XML Global


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