Dick.  Thanks a lot for the clarification.  I have no doubt that it will
prove very useful in our internal deliberations.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Dick Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   October 16, 2002 3:25 PM
To:     XMLEDI Group
Subject:        RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration
Webc     ast.

Ed,

I was involved in the convergence of SOAP and ebXML's Message Service and
offer my personal viewpoint of the differences:

Function/Feature        WEB Services    ebXML MS    Comment
(SOAP 1.1)
----------------        ------------    --------
-------------------------
Reliable Delivery               NO                 YES

Defines Security Model          NO                 YES

Supports attachments            NO                 YES  The SOAP spec does
not
                                                        Support attachments.
An
                                                        ancillary spec, SOAP
with Attachments provides
                                                        this functionality.

Native support for              NO                 YES  Binary objects must
be
Binary "payloads"
base64 encoded in SOAP

Native support for              NO                 YES  SOAP does not allow
Document
all XML features and
document types  Type Declarations or processing instructions or processing
instructions in the SOAP payload container
                                                        (BODY ELEMENT). ebMS
places
all payloads in separate containers, which are MIME aware and can contain
almost any digital data. XML  containing these items must be base64 encoded.

Supports RPC mode               YES                YES

Method to identify root element          Uses Service and Action remote
procedures of BODY header elements to identify RPC to
                                                           invoke

Supports Asynchronous           NO                 YES
Responses
WSDL support                    YES                YES

Registry Repository             YES                YES

Trading Partner Profile         NO                 YES
Support
Interoperability Testing                YES                YES
Completed

Commercially available          YES                YES

Freeware available              YES                YES

Endorsed by UN/CEFACT   NO                 YES

Endorsed by DISA                NO                 YES

Software available from IBM     YES                YES      [1] B2B/M2M

Software available from SUN     YES                YES  JAXM

Software available from                 YES                 NO
Microsoft
[1] http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/sj/412/dias.pdf


Dick Brooks
Systrends, Inc
7855 South River Parkway, Suite 111
Tempe, Arizona 85284
Web: www.systrends.com <http://www.systrends.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:38 PM
To:     XMLEDI Group
Subject:        RE: [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration
        Webc ast.


Hi David,
This is very timely.  However, I have an immediate need to clarify the
relationship between web services and ebXML.  Advertising the fact that
there is a relationship between XML, web services and SAP commitment to both
will do little to convince my colleagues that ebXML is the way forward!  Do
you have any clarifying articles/statements on the relationship of web
services and ebXML.  The problem areas include resolving the relationship
between ebXML registry and UDDI.
-----Original Message-----
From:   David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   October 15, 2002 2:06 PM
To:     XMLEDI Group
Subject:        [announce] Oct 16th - SAP @ Uniboard and XML integration
        Webcast.

XML Global is providing a promotional webcast tomorrow,
October 16th at 1:00pm ET (10:00am PT)
The topic is integration in the context of SAP systems.
Overview:
How are you taking advantage of XML and Web Services - these
new developments in the world of e-business? How can you
apply both to your advantage and bring them together in
an integration solution?

Register at the following link:
http://www.xmlglobal.com/news/webinars/transform4.jsp
Thanks,

DW,
VP Business Development,
XML Global


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