On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Mike Mestnik wrote:

> 
> --- Noah Romer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Martin Held wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, I am in the market for buying a Radeon 8500, and read your post to
> > > the Xpert mailing list.  Have you found DRI to be working yet at all in
> > > CVS?  I like to be able to play my DVD's under linux, and I only use
> > > Windows for gaming.  The 8500 has become attractive to me since it
> > > apparently has dual head support, wondering if you know about either or
> > > have seen either work well, and how happy you have felt about the support
> > > for the 8500 (or lack thereof) thus far.  I'm trying to find out as much
> > > information before I even think of taking the plunge.
> > 
> > I'm not sure. I'm able to run XWindows using a checkout from cvs. However,
> > using the 2.4.7-10 kernel in RedHat 7.2, my AGP controller (I've got an
> > Athlon system w/ a VIA KT266A chipset on the motherboard) isn't
> > recognised and it appears to just be using PCI access to the Radeon 8500.
> > Thus, no DRM or DRI. I've also tried using the stock 2.4.16 kernel. With
> > this, the AGP controller is recognised but, when I start XWindows, the
> > monitor loses it's signal, and the only thing I can do is reboot the
> > machine. I've checked the log file at /var/log/XFree86.0, and it doesn't
> > show any problems.
> > 
> > So, w/ the 2.4.7-10 kernel, I still just get a black box where the video
> > would be (although it's no longer offset to the right of the window's
> > frame), and w/ the latest kernel's I can't run X at all.
> > 
> > I've pretty much given up on doing much w/ XWindows on my new system for
> > now. I've ended up leaving my old computer hooked up to my main monitor
> > and having XWindows apps on my new computer display, across my home
> > network, in the  XWindows session on my old computer. Althought it may
> > be an issue w/ the kernel's drm drivers for my motherboards chipset, at
> > this point, I wouldn't recommend either the Radeon 8500 or the 7500 for a
> > linux user who want's to do run 3D or video apps. I find myself wishing
> > I'd bought one of the newer Matrox boards (G450 or somesuch). They're not
> > as fast for 3D (which I can't use w/ the Radeon 8500 anyways), but they
> > blow the GeForce3 and Radeon 8500 aways when it comes to super crisp high
> > resolution non-3D work (the GeForce's fuzziness is the main reason I won't
> > buy one).
> Nvidia/GeForce drivers have problems...
> http://linuxgames.com/articles/morenvidiatips-20010930.txt
> best describes why I HATE my GeForce.

   Bernhard has AGP problems.   His "Fix" is not needed 
and merely breaks 2D/3D synchronization.   There are plenty
people running Intel AGP chips which have no problems at all.


                                Mark.

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