On Die, 2002-10-22 at 08:15, Kacper Wysocki wrote: 
> > From: Michel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > > super-slow! What gives? I did have trouble loading glx earlier, but
> > I
> > > traced this problem to my enabling of the radeon framebuffer device
> > in
> > > the kernel.
> > 
> > Huh? Must have been something else.
> 
> No, I'm pretty sure that's it. I tried different versions of XF86
> (admittedly, never cvs), but glx would not load. Recall a post Sep 30th
> where I was fretting about the fact, upon which I got a reply saying my
> libglx.so was out of date (Aitchison & Bruno). This might have been
> true at the time, but after reinstalling XF86 things were still looking
> glum, until it occured to me that it might be the fbdev. Mind you, I
> had similar problems with an nvidia card about a year ago. I disabled
> the radeon fbdev, and the glx loads.

Must be something else, there's no relation whatsoever between the two that I
can think of. Note that the XFree86 glx module is called libglx.a and isn't
equivalent to hardware acceleration.


> > > Now glx loads, but performance is still crap.
> > 
> > 3D acceleration is only supported for the 8500 in DRI CVS yet. As
> > you're
> > running Debian, http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian
> > should be interesting to you.
> 
> It doesn't work. I tried the debian-packaged snapshots and the x-server
> refuses to load, giving a signal 11.

Weird, there have been problems with the daily snapshots, but I haven't gotten
any such reports about my Debian packages before. Please provide logs, config
files etc.

> When I try regylar sid xf packages (4.2.1-3) I immediately need to do a
> hard reset. Only thing that works for me are the binaries.

What binaries exactly?


> > > *  Video/dvd playback with mplayer and xine is good, but only with
> > This should be fixed in current XFree86 and DRI CVS.
> 
> > That seems to be normal when trying to run dualhead with GATOS
> > drivers.
> 
> Are you saying the GATOS driver does not work with the dual output of
> the Radeon? The people on the gatos-devel list didn't seem to be able 
> to confirm this.

There have been several reports of crashes when running with dualhead by
Mandrake users; one prominent feature of Mandrake is that they merge GATOS
code into their XFree86 packages, but maybe they just do it badly.


> > Earthling Michel D�nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc)
> > developer
> Hardly on topic, but I wonder, since you are a Debian/powerpc
> developer: what are my chances at getting a pc radeon card to work in a
> apple macintosh?

It will probably only work if you re-flash it with an OF ROM. I think people
have done this.

> What about a GeForce 3 Ti? (I've looked into the
> matter and it seems the mac firmware does not exist)

You'd be lucky to get decent 2D acceleration going for that, no 3D.


-- 
Earthling Michel D�nzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

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