Hi Jim,

Jim Campbell wrote:
> Per Cody's message, we've moved the location of the specification for 
> the new website to: 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Gutsy/NewWebsite 
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Gutsy/NewWebsite>
> 
> Believe me, I know that writing a specification is not fun, but if we 
> could have a couple people take a look at it, and just jot down what 
> they like about the website and what needs to be improved - at least 
> give us a start - it would be helpful.
> 
> Don't go thinking that your comments have to be perfect.  Let's just get 
> down some ideas first so that we have something to build on.  In the 
> spirit of wikipedia, be bold.
> 
> Muchas gracias,

wouldn't it work faster and get more feedback if instead of a spec the site 
itself
was prototyped? Take the ubuntu drupal theme, and with maybe minor CSS+art 
changes and
the main (not archives) content of xubuntu.org put it up somewhere. If you have 
access
to xubuntu.org do you have enough rights to set up a subdomain for it 
(beta.xubuntu.org)

Then people can get real feedback and proceed with improving it in small steps.
Writing a spec is as you say boring, and I think it has the effect of 
demotivating people working on it,
whereas a live site would get more contributors excited and be visible progress.

So as the 'Getting Real' authors advise: get something small out quick, get 
feedback on the real thing
not the specs, improve in iterations, etc. :)

Of course for this to work someone _has_ to take ownership of the task. With 
3-4 site admins but
none taking full responsability progress is usually slower.

In the past someone said they had the current ubuntu drupal theme adapted for 
xubuntu? Is that done?
A few first steps I can see are:

- set up the new beta subdomain (not one external to xubuntu.org if possible) 
(needs owner)

- put the new drupal skin on it (needs owner)

- start filling with content from multiple authors and solve problmes that 
arise (multiple authors)

- eventually switch xubuntu.org to this content


thanks
Jani



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