On 7/24/07, Jani Monoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Jim,


[snip]

wouldn't it work faster and get more feedback if instead of a spec the site
itself
was prototyped? Take the ubuntu drupal theme, and with maybe minor CSS+art
changes and
the main (not archives) content of xubuntu.org put it up somewhere. If you
have access
to xubuntu.org do you have enough rights to set up a subdomain for it (
beta.xubuntu.org)

Then people can get real feedback and proceed with improving it in small
steps.
Writing a spec is as you say boring, and I think it has the effect of
demotivating people working on it,
whereas a live site would get more contributors excited and be visible
progress.

So as the 'Getting Real' authors advise: get something small out quick,
get feedback on the real thing
not the specs, improve in iterations, etc. :)


Either approach is fine with me - really, for me it's up to the people who
will actually be doing the work on the website.  If Chad and the current
maintainers want to hash things out over IRC, over email, or over the
mailing list, that's fine with me.  Different people work in different ways,
I guess.  I had just thought to put up the spec because that's how I thought
we were supposed to do it, even though I haven't had fun experiences with
them myself.*

Of course for this to work someone _has_ to take ownership of the task. With
3-4 site admins but
none taking full responsability progress is usually slower.


We have Chad who is taking responsibility for initially getting the new site
up and running, but of course he could use help from the current admins. I'm
mostly thinking of feedback about what their pain points were/are with the
site.  I've heard comments that we should have a means for more content
updates on the front page.

In the past someone said they had the current ubuntu drupal theme adapted
for xubuntu? Is that done?


TheSheep (Radomir?) had done a good amount of work getting things set up
initially, but he had to bow out of future development efforts on it due to
time constraints.  We new have a base drupal 5.1 install up at
http://vidd.us/~xubuntu.  Chad does have the files that TheSheep was using,
though.

This is just my little update on it.  :)  Thanks, all.

Jim
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