Hi, i see your point :) i just thought that as fluxbuntu is based on ubuntu (and is light and responsive) that xubuntu could do it too... i guess the main reason why it seems like a sacrilege to move towards gnome is that i left gnome to have a lighter/faster desktop with xfce, and now it seams that the gnome is following my steps :)
i just hope that you keep providing people with alternatives and make xubuntu rock once again. kaspar On 31/01/2008, Jani Monoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Kaspar, > > thanks for the feedback, no problem if you 'jump in' :) > > Kaspar Kööp wrote: > > i'm sorry to come into between you two, but i have also felt the > > responsiveness i got out of my old lappy, slip between my fingers when > > running the xubuntu gutsy... it used to be so smooth and fast... now it > > hogs... as in fresh install hog... therefore i have moved my lappy to > > something lighter (fluxbuntu) > > > > i understand what Jerome is saying... and i also understand why Jani > > needs numbers to back it down... but how can i back down what i say with > > numbers, how could i explain what i feel using xubuntu every day? i love > > xubuntu... but i have to say the responsiveness has gone from it > > > > why not the developers (before changing the programs) run some > > benchmarks and get values that are really acceptable, so we (the users) > > could see that the change in programs will not effect the overall > > responsiveness. > > > > Jani, you need to defend your approach, i understand, but please, > > honestly, don't you miss the fast-xubuntu we used to have? or are your > > computers all too new and fast to see the difference? > > > > Actually I feel the slowdown too and I am sorry to feel it. But the > thing is, it does not come from the apps we changed. Those were in large > part apps that you run once do you task and close them. > > I would understand if you said that switching back to xscreensaver you > got a noticably faster desktop start, or that managing arhives with file > roller became slower after swicthing from xarchive, but you seem to feel > the general sluggishness. > > And that is due to Ubuntu's base system slowness coming from a variety > of reasons: there are now python initscripts started for hplip, GTK > itself and X may be less responsive than the versions before, font > rendering may be slower etc. One of the things which was our choice is > running the printer GUI daemon but that, as the other additions to > recent Xubuntu can be either uninstalled or removed form the startup app > list. > > Let me repeat this, I am not saying there is no slowing down, I feel it > too, have been saying it for a while, and I have done a lot of specific > patches during the past two years to GNOME apps to get them slimmer. > However the problems many times lie elsewhere. > > If you really thought fluxbuntu is slimmer it means you picked a > different environment altogether, whereas if only my GNOME apps choices > are the ones that ruin the show you could have kept Xfce core and be > happy. > > But if Xfce is slow with the non-GNOME apps thrown in than it's not > entirely the GNOME apps fault. > > Jani > > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel >
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