On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Pasi Lallinaho <o...@knome.fi> wrote:
> Vincent wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Steve Dodier <sidnio...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with Pasi that Xubuntu may benefit from a multiple leaders board. >> A single leader system too often, in my opinion, gave the impression that it >> was Cody against the others when Cody was disagreeing on something with the >> rest of the team, because it's hard to know if its the project lead or the >> developer who disagrees. Having a more equal system would probably help >> avoiding such bizarre situations. >> >> This being said, I'm willing to take absolutely no responsibilities of any >> sort. :) I have enough work with my school, so all the free time I put into >> FOSS will go to Shimmer projects (which yet match quite a few projects used >> in Xubuntu, so I may not be competely useless :p). This should not restrict >> me from babbling all over IRC and the mailing list, though. >> >> I'd personally love to see Cody, Pasi, Jim and Lionel (and Vincent?) as >> that leaders council. You guys are the guys who get the work done, and you >> all have a long experience with Xubuntu. >> >> I'd also like to say that new contributors or people who want to >> contribute should not bother too much about the leadership thing. Everyone >> is welcome in Xubuntu, and if you have feedback about what you feel held or >> slowed you down from contributing, or about how to make you feel more >> welcome in our little community, feel free to tell it. >> > > So, I've found time to check my email and found this conversation. Which > immediately brings me to my first point: I really don't have enough time to > do some really serious stuff, besides not really having any useful skill. I > do share the expectation that a council could work well for Xubuntu, > provided that its members can really participate. The people mentioned until > now have really proven that they are a really valuable part of the project, > so I would really love them to join. (And I sometimes wonder what happened > to Jozsef as well.) > > Sorry to hear your time is so limited. I hope you will still contribute to > the project as much as you feel like. > Yeah well, I've been kind of a bad citizen in not really contributing much in the past -well, a long time- anyway ;-) If someone asked to update something on the website now it would've taken three days or so for me to do it... > Has anybody an idea what Joszef is doing right now? > > > Furthermore, I'm excited to see another potential contributor, though I'd > like to know J. Anthony Limon's first name ;-) Being a long time Xfce-user, > I hope that you'll contribute in the #xubuntu IRC channel and the > xubuntu-users mailinglist to help less experienced users. Another area where > I think you could be very valuable (without knowing which other skills you > might have :) is in documentation, so you might want to have a chat with Jim > about that. Which brings me to my second point: could we expand the > Documentation team to "User support" in general? Not sure whether it's > really that necessary but it seems appropriate at first sight. > > Vincent, how limited your time really is? > When was the last time you saw me on IRC? ;-) > > Combining the website and the documentation team wouldn't sound a bad idea > either, if you feel like you don't have time to or are unwilling to lead the > website team. Please do not think I'm trying to throw you out of your leader > role, I was just thinking all the possibilities we have, if you are going to > be available less. > No offense taken, I think it's a good idea. > > Best, > -- > Vincent > > I think a probably goos way to reorganize the teams/leaders would be: > > [ 1 ] Technical team > TEAM ROLE: No change. > LEADER(S): Lionel and/or Cody, depending what would be the most logical > solution and on how big role Cody wishes to keep in the project. I don't > think it would be bad thing to have to leaders for the technical team > either. > > Sounds good. > [ 2 ] Documentation team > TEAM ROLE: The doc team would include the current website team. I see no > point in having a separate website team, as the website really isn't *that* > big issue right now. I also think it would be easier to get new contributors > to the documentation team, if they could be lured in with the phrase "the > documentation team also administrates our website"... > LEADER(S): Jim and/or Vincent. Two leaders here would also be plausible. > > Jim, if he wants :) > > > [ 3 ] Marketing team > TEAM ROLE: Current marketing and artwork teams combined. > LEADER(S): Myself. Any objections are welcome. :) > > None over here :) > [ 4 ] Testing/QA team > TEAM ROLE: No change. > LEADER(S): Charlie. > > Hell yeah. > Again I have to ask; what's the situation with Michael? How closely is he > tied to the Xubuntu team? While he could totally keep his Debian Liaison > title, would it be better to locate his position in the technical team? > > I'll leave it for Michael to respond :) > Feel free to disagree on everything or anything. > > > Cheers, > > -- > Pasi Lallinaho > Xubuntu Marketing Lead > Web-designer, graphic artist > IRC: knome @ freenode > > > -- Vincent
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