On 01/07/2011 09:51 PM, Allan Button wrote: > Browser choice is normally based on personal preference. Would it be > possible to have a first run menu that asks the end user what browser > they want, and what feature sets they would like? > > This may be a step backwards, but I think of centos and anaconda > asking me what packages I want by default. Something similar but > simpler could help cut down on the memory footprint. > > For me on my laptop, I don't need printing support, but would prefer > firefox and thunderbird despite them being a little more memory > intensive. > > I would also be happy to drop any media application, because my laptop > is just used for field work for my company. I used to uninstall > openoffice when it was included too. > > If this menu was presented after the install, then apt could be used > to fetch the packages. This would free up some space on the cd, and > help manage the fact that chromium updates every 6 weeks. Yes and no. I'd like to have those packages on the CD, so that when you've installed the system you still don't need a CD to be able to install any media player etc. Not all of us have internet at our hands all the time, some PC's are really really rarely connected if ever. > > Allan Button > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-01-07, at 12:34 PM, Micah Gersten <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> On 01/07/2011 01:11 PM, Jim Campbell wrote: >> > Hi All, >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Glenn de Groot >> >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hello, >> >> > >> >> > here are some of my thoughts: >> >> > >> >> > Chromium looks really odd and alien on linux, and Midori is >> >> > unstable, so I say stick with FF. >> >> > Claws-mail is really good and lightweight, it will be a >> good >> >> > thunderbird replacement. >> >> > Exaile is not bad but I like (the new) Audacious a lot. >> >> > It has a beautiful gtk interface and is the most >> lightweight >> >> > player I have seen. >> >> > >> >> > Also, has lightdm ever been considered? >> >> > It seems to be awesome and much lighter then gdm. >> >> > Lxdm is good too. >> >> > >> >> > -Glenn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > If you haven't seen the latest issue, Linux Journal has a >> quick look >> >> > at some alternate desktop environments, and the first one >> featured >> >> > is Xfce on Xubuntu. The primary* thing that they noted was >> that the >> >> > default Xubuntu install ran with 325mb of RAM used, while >> Ubuntu's >> >> > default RAM usage after boot-up was 328mb (by contrast, >> Lubuntu used >> >> > just 167mb of RAM). They actually suggested using Ubuntu >> with >> >> > lighter-weight apps (i.e., Installing Ubuntu and replacing >> Rhythmbox >> >> > with Exaile, etc.) over using Xubuntu. (Note that they >> didn't >> >> > *dislike* Xubuntu, but just thought it wasn't a big >> advantage to use >> >> > Xfce over Gnome.) >> >> > >> >> > Xubuntu may load some useful features that Lubuntu doesn't >> load, but >> >> > that RAM usage number is one measuring stick that people >> use. Would >> >> > it be worthwhile to consider any changes that might allow >> for lesser >> >> > memory usage at boot? I'd be willing to help with testing >> out >> >> > various configurations and reporting back to the group if >> that would >> >> > help. >> >> > >> >> > Also, I went back to look at the "Should we use Chromium?" >> thread >> >> > from 2009, and a couple of things have changed since then . >> . . >> >> > Chromium is now stable (it was in beta at the time), there >> is a >> >> > legitimate ad-blocking extension (not just ad-hiding), and >> it now >> >> > allows for community translations (meaning we wouldn't be >> limited to >> >> > Google Chrome's default language set.). These were all >> larger >> >> > concerns at that time. >> One problem with Chromium is that there are major updates every 6 >> weeks, so the default will be ever changing throughout the cycle. >> Firefox should only have one major update throughout the cycle. Also, >> the Chromium debs are larger than the ones for Firefox. >> > >> >> > I'm indifferent on the mail application. If it means that >> we could >> >> > get rid of Xulrunner (which would require switching to >> Chromium and >> >> > Clawsmail), it might be worth considering switching to >> Clawsmail, >> >> > too. I think yelp uses Xulrunner, though, and yelp gets >> pulled in >> >> > with some of our gnome-apps, like file-roller. >> >> > >> >> > Jim >> >> > >> >> > *They also incorrectly ascribed the nice-looking theme to >> work by >> >> > Canonical. I'll have to write a letter to the editor about >> that >> >> > one. : ) >> Yelp should be the only thing using xulrunner at the moment in Xubuntu >> as Firefox and Thunderbird each have their own copy. If yelp is >> ported to webkit, then xulrunner can be dropped, but webkit will be >> pulled in. What about getting rid of Yelp altogether? >> >> Micah >> >> -- >> xubuntu-devel mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
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