Cody Smith <[email protected]> writes: >Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top of X11 doesn't mean >Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland isn't like x Wayland, you can't >stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a design decision
>C_smith I understand. Then someting else on the system is messing with the xmodmap settings. There must be some component of the OS, or some app, that is responsible. I have not been able to identify any repeatable pattern of actions taken that is triggering the problem. So far it just seems to occur randomly. Regards, -- Jeff >On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery Small <[email protected]> wrote: >> Liam Proven <[email protected]> writes: >> >> >On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that >> >> is causing the problem. >> >> >I think they are wrong. >> >> >Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland. >> >> >There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know of >> >the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in Xubuntu >> >Noble. >> >> >-- >> >Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven ~ LinkedIn/X/FB: >> lproven >> >Email: [email protected] ~ Google: [email protected] >> >IoM: (+44) 7624 227612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 >> >Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 >> >> Liam: >> >> I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following packages >> have been pulled in by something over time: >> >> kwayland-data >> kwayland-integration >> libkf5waylandclient5 >> libnvidia-egl-wayland1 >> libqt5waylandclient5 >> libqt5waylandcompositor5 >> libqt6waylandclient6 >> libqt6waylandcompositor6 >> libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6 >> libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6 >> libva-wayland2 >> libwayland-client0 >> libwayland-cursor0 >> libwayland-egl1 >> libwayland-server0 >> qt6-wayland >> qtwayland5 >> wayland-protocols >> >> I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if some >> other program is using Wayland components in some way. And I'm not even >> saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's just >> what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem. >> >> In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if >> anyone >> does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Jeffery Small >> >> -- >> xubuntu-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users >> >--00000000000065bcb106457de5e6 >Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ><div dir=3D"auto">Just because packages were pulled in for Wayland on top o= >f X11 doesn't mean Wayland is in use at al on XFCEl. Wayland isn't = >like x Wayland, you can't stack Wayland on top of X11, that's a des= >ign decision=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">C_smith</di= >v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"lt= >r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 6:19=E2=80=AFPM Jeffery Small = ><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div>= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= >x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Liam Proven <<a href=3D"mailto:lproven@gm= >ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> wri= >tes:<br> ><br> >>On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 at 17:31, Jeffery Small <<a href=3D"mailto:jeff@c= >jsa.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<= >br> ><br> >>> the consensus seems to be that it is Wayland that<br> >>> is causing the problem.<br> ><br> >>I think they are wrong.<br> ><br> >>Xubuntu does not use Wayland... Because Xfce does not use Wayland.<br> ><br> >>There is _experimental_ support for labwc with Xfce but I only know of<= >br> >>the latest openSUSE using it so far. It is definitely not in Xubuntu<br= >> >>Noble.<br> ><br> >>-- <br> >>Liam Proven ~ Profile: <a href=3D"https://about.me/liamproven"; rel=3D"n= >oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://about.me/liamproven</a> ~ L= >inkedIn/X/FB: lproven<br> >>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no= >referrer">[email protected]</a> ~ Google: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= >om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br> >>IoM: (+44) 7624 227612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884<br> >>Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053<br> ><br> >Liam:<br> ><br> >I understand that Xfce4 doesn't use Wayland, but the following packages= ><br> >have been pulled in by something over time:<br> ><br> >kwayland-data<br> >kwayland-integration<br> >libkf5waylandclient5<br> >libnvidia-egl-wayland1<br> >libqt5waylandclient5<br> >libqt5waylandcompositor5<br> >libqt6waylandclient6<br> >libqt6waylandcompositor6<br> >libqt6waylandeglclienthwintegration6<br> >libqt6waylandeglcompositorhwintegration6<br> >libva-wayland2<br> >libwayland-client0<br> >libwayland-cursor0<br> >libwayland-egl1<br> >libwayland-server0<br> >qt6-wayland<br> >qtwayland5<br> >wayland-protocols<br> ><br> >I'm not saying that Wayland proper is running, but I do wonder if some<= >br> >other program is using Wayland components in some way.=C2=A0 And I'm no= >t even<br> >saying that I have any clue that Wayland is involved at all; that's jus= >t<br> >what other have mentioned when I tried to research this problem.<br> ><br> >In any case, other people are also experiencing the same thing and if anyon= >e<br> >does have any ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them.<br> ><br> >Regards,<br> >--<br> >Jeffery Small<br> ><br> >-- <br> >xubuntu-users mailing list<br> ><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"= >noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br> >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href=3D"https://lists.ubuntu.com/mail= >man/listinfo/xubuntu-users" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"= >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a><br> ></blockquote></div> >--00000000000065bcb106457de5e6-- >--===============1919052422431140676== >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >Content-Disposition: inline >LS0gCnh1YnVudHUtdXNlcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0Cnh1YnVudHUtdXNlcnNAbGlzdHMudWJ1bnR1 >LmNvbQpNb2RpZnkgc2V0dGluZ3Mgb3IgdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgYXQ6IGh0dHBzOi8vbGlzdHMudWJ1 >bnR1LmNvbS9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3h1YnVudHUtdXNlcnMK >--===============1919052422431140676==-- -- xubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
