Hello, The Mozillazine story titled "Mozilla Wins XUL Motor of the Year 2003 Award" kicked off a discussion about the future of XUL and the role of the Mozilla Foundation in creating a rich internet for everyone.
Neil Deankin (of xulplanet.com fame) writes: Indeed, a 'standard' XUL specification would be useful, although a lot of work, and would need to vary highly among different types of situations (such as small devices). I'm not sure why the Mozilla Foundation would want to invest all the work to create a XUL spec to allow other implementations of XUL to exist, thus dimishing the usefulness of Mozilla overall. This may be better for your ideal -- yet unattainable -- world where everyone works together to "create a rich internet for everyone", but this doesn't particularly benefit Mozilla. To which I respond: So how does Mozilla's attitude differ from Microsoft's? If you don't believe in cooperation, that's fine. But please stop proclaiming "creating a rich internet for everyone" is a pipe dream and unattainable. Again, isn't it ironic that the Mozilla Foundation states that their core mission is to maintain choice and innovation on the internet. What a bunch of self-serving hypocrites. Boris Zbarsky (a Mozilla volunteer core hacker) writes in response to my Ian Hickson quotes about the state of Mozilla XUL: You know, I've never known Ian to lie. Never. In several years of knowing him. So calling something he said "blatant lies" is a pretty strong accusation. Care to back it up? To which I respond: Sure. Let's work on Ian's first statement: > We stopped working on the XUL spec itself when XUL Planet started documenting XUL in more detail > than we had time to do ourselves. Don't you think anyone should have told Neal Deankin about his new responsibility? Why gently break the news three years after the fact in a newsgroup he doesn't read? I also asked Ian why he won't finish up the XUL spec. His answer in a nutshell: I don't believe in XUL. I don't get paid for it why should I spend any time on it. In contrast Ian just spent several months to create a new Web Forms 2.0 spec that competes head-on with XForms 1.0 online @ http://www.hixie.ch/specs/html/forms/web-forms proving that he clearly knows how to write a spec. Neil Deankin also adds his comments on Ian's statement: It wasn't mentioned to me no. It may have been mentioned to XUL Planet though. mozilla.org did in fact contact XUL Planet about collaborating on XUL documentaion, however I was not involved much in such discussions. That was before the Foundation was created though, so priorities shifted. Full story @ http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=4141 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click _______________________________________________ xul-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-announce
