>> If you care so much about Mozilla XUL why don't
>> finish up what you started?

> Time constraints mainly.

  Ian, that says it all. If you care about XUL and if
XUL is important too you than you make it a priority.
Saying you're too busy with other things just shows
you don't give a damn.

  Why not, for example, give up your day job and start
your own business? After all XUL is the future, isn't
it? 

>> Can you put some evidence behind your claim?
>> Where, for example, can I
>> find the Mozilla XUL mailinglist? What changes
>> have been made to the spec recently?
> 
> Most of the current XUL work is being done within
> standards organisations
> with strict NDA policies. If you are a ISO, W3C,
> ECMA, or IETF member let
> me know and I can show you the relevant links if you
> are a member of the
> appropriate one.
  
  Whom do you try to intimitate? 

  IETF works using mailinglists using a "no kings and
queens" policy. Can you point me to some posts that
touch on XUL? Or how about ISO? Is ISO cooking up a
XUL spec for 2025?

   Just get real. If you design XUL using a closed
door policy you're not getting anywhere. All it breads
is such arrogant posers like you are.

> Actually I am intimately familiar with the reasons
> behind Apple's decision
> to use KHTML to develop Safari, and can assure you
> XUL was not related to
> the decision at all. That they immediately hired one
> of XUL's editors, and
> that said editor is still working on XUL, should
> tell you whether they
> consider XUL a threat or not.

  Ian, you're clueless. Apple, of coure, won't come
out and say XUL is a platform threat. The same holds
true for IBM, Sun, Microsoft and so on. If Apple
supports XUL how come they don't even use it? 

  Also Apple hired David Hayatt not because he is the
XUL "editor" but because he has been the core Gecko
HTML render engine developer. 

  Why not ask David if Apple allows him to sneak in
XUL into Safari for some enlightenment? 

> I'm still waiting for your "open XUL" effort to
> begin, not to mention
> still waiting for the answers to the two e-mails I
> sent many months ago on
> this mailing list.

  Ian, the XUL Alliancen uses a different approach to
standardization. First, you build XUL
motors/browsers/runtimes and then you work on
interoperability and later on standardization.

  It's all well underway. 

  - Gerald

PS: If you report to the CTO at Opera why not show him
the light and add XUL to your browser.



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