Most of these points have already been addressed, and since I agreed with the way they were refuted, I'll only add new comments.
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Marc Clifton wrote: > because it's perfectly clear to me why the XUL community has failed. I don't see that it has failed. > Very few people want to touch a GPL project. That isn't true. For starters, Linux (and of course, GNU) is entirely GPL and yet is used as a platform for running free, open source, and proprietary applications. Just because a XUL motor, for example, is GPL, doesn't mean that applications written on it have to be. > The whole concept of declarative markup to instantiate classes, set > properties, and instantiate collections was basically an exercise in > futility (or an interesting lab experiment) before .NET and reflection > came along. The criteria above has been met by Java since (1997?), so I'm not sure I understand that sentence, but if I'm correct, then the copyright notice here (http://www.castor.org/), to give one simple example, shows this not to be true. This doesn't apply to UI objects, but the principle meets your criteria above. All the Java XUL motors must use a similar technique. > Seven, the concept of XUL is beautiful. But how much education as the XUL > community done to teach programmers about the flexibility of decoupling > presentation layer from event process, similar to the MVC pattern? I fully agree. The mind-shift required by programmers to understand the subtleties of true presentation/logic separation shouldn't be underestimated, particularly by advocates of a XUL approach who have perhaps already become familiar with it. Kind of similar to the shift from desktop applications to server side web applications. As I recall, that wasn't a particularly easy transition either. > The underlying concepts of XUL is closely tied with the MVC pattern, true > agile programming, and aspect oriented programming. If people don't > understand those concepts, they'll never buy into XUL. Aspect oriented programming applies generally to all kinds of programming (in theory, if not in practice) - as do agile methods, but I can't see how either are pre-requisites to XUL. My tuppence worth, Kevin ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ xul-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
