Hi, > > One, Longhorn is turning into a major debacle. > Two, XAML is dead.
* I'm not that optimistic, as there is another possibility : Microsoft might reinvest its forces in internet explorer 7, and this new version might include some XML UI features, aka XAML. This is a real danger for all XML UIs. (Do you remind how they included the CLR in windows before launching .Net ? And how long it took to launch .Net ? and how widespread it is now ?) > and then the best-of-breed of the XAML competitors will have stolen the show. ** Mozilla is trying hard to compete for years, with or without XUL, and has not succeeded yet, despite its guerilla marketing techniques. I don't remind the percentage of mozilla browser installed, but it's not high. If the Google Browser is not a mere announce, it might be a more usefull help for XUL, and I hope other XML UI can benefit from this. > will people want to use XAML when there are other > proven technologies out there? *** Unfortunality, "people" don't choose. It's always very hard to convince CIO/CTO/Decision Makers that it's better to use an unknown but good technology than the one of a well known company like Microsoft/IBM/Sun. IMO, for the future of XML UI, it's better to have behemoth to compete with, so we can say aloud "see, the big ones try to do the same as we do, but they're way behind". If Microsoft gives up XAML, Decision Makers might say : "is your XML UI really that good ? Why did Microsoft gave it up ? isn't it weird ? may be it's not a good idea..." I wouldn't go as far as supporting XAML, of course, but what I mean is that the more "competitors" there are, the easier it is to convince people that XML UIs are a breakthrough for Rich clients in Internet Applications. **** IMHO, XML UI technologies still have to convince that they are good for internet, and for business : it's still necessary to prototype "real life applications" and benchmark them between XML UIs and above all against other solutions (jsp/asp/applet/flash/heavy client). Philippe Aubourg --- Charles Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 14:16 -0400, Marc Clifton > wrote: > > Two things that I think, without any justification > other than gut feel. > > I can't say I disagree. The 'official date' of 2006 > for Longhorn is > beginning to seem optimistic at best. And XAML, > well, it's going to > literally miss it's boat if it doesn't ship with > Longhorn. Between now > and then the best-of-breed of the XAML competitors > (MyXAML, XUL, > hopefully Vexi, and others) will have stolen the > show. Given the poor > history Microsoft of initial versions of software > being, basically, > buggy and unstable, will people want to use XAML > when there are other > proven technologies out there? And such > technologies will be proven and > widespread by the time it seems that XAML will make > it to market. > > This, though, is good news from our perspectives. > One less behemoth to > worry about! > -- > - Charlie > > Charles Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Online @ http://charlie.vexico.com > Vous manquez d’espace pour stocker vos mails ? Yahoo! Mail vous offre GRATUITEMENT 100 Mo ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger est arrivé ! Découvrez toutes les nouveautés pour dialoguer instantanément avec vos amis. A télécharger gratuitement sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php _______________________________________________ xul-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
