On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Edward O'Callaghan
<victoredwardocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Right..
> Not sure what you mean about xcb being large and complex ?
> So what am I to do to accelerate this process ?
> Martin:If you send me your pkgdef I can maintain then and
> improve/clean up other things such as CFLAGS or whatever, and when
> Alan feels ready about integrating I can push them up myself?
>
> Regards,
> Edward.


Edward, when Alan Coopersmith (or other X11-group members) speak(s)
about complexity, what he then is talking about is not, to somehow get
something built in some way, a bit.
Especially libX11 has been a case, where the ABI has changed quite a
bit over the years, which constituted a problem when replacing ((X11
6.4's legacy libX11) + (Sun's patches)) with (modern X11 7.x's libX11
from Xorg).
This is indeed a bit complex, also - sometimes there can be
side-effects which you don't instantly see, and it definitely required
some thoughts, work and testing, as you can verify by yourself here
(and localization has to be taken into account as well)  ::

http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/fox/fox-gate/XW_NV/open-src/lib/libX11/

Name    Date    Size
1234757.patch   07-Aug-2008     6.8K
1261271.patch   07-Aug-2008     2.9K
4010755.patch   07-Aug-2008     8K
4076297.patch   07-Aug-2008     2.6K
4614834.patch   07-Aug-2008     3.7K
5039226.patch   07-Aug-2008     2.6K
6409332.patch   07-Aug-2008     2.3K
6657999.patch   07-Aug-2008     751
6681985.patch   08-Sep-2008     901.4K
6686591.patch   07-Aug-2008     368
6690040.patch   07-Aug-2008     3.3K
6690054.patch   07-Aug-2008     620
6691219.patch   07-Aug-2008     721
6691236.patch   07-Aug-2008     367
6715568.patch   07-Aug-2008     356
6739431.patch   10-Oct-2008     1K
lintlib.patch   07-Aug-2008     1.6K
local-transport.patch   07-Aug-2008     11.8K
Makefile        10-Oct-2008     4.5K
manpages.patch  07-Aug-2008     80.7K
mapfile-order   12-Aug-2008     28.2K
mapfile-vers    07-Aug-2008     20.9K
mapfile-vers-64 07-Aug-2008     1.9K
sme.patch       07-Aug-2008     27.4K
solaris-abi.patch       07-Aug-2008     2.7K
solaris-i18n.patch      07-Aug-2008     1.7M
solaris-kbd.patch       07-Aug-2008     25.4K
SolarisIA.patch 07-Aug-2008     2.9K
sun-src/        07-Aug-2008     
XErrorDB.patch  07-Aug-2008     3.7K

See the point now?
What the X11 group does has to be compatible with everything that Sun
or a commercial 3rd party ever shipped during (at least) the last 10
years.
Don't underestimate the X11 group's huge amount of complex work.
(And be more patient when you file bugs, for example, 5 days are not
enough to get a rare hw problem fixed.)

Only "as info" ("for what it is worth", or how shall I say).

Regards,
Martin


> 2008/10/29 Alan Coopersmith <Alan.Coopersmith at sun.com>:
>> Edward O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> 2.) XCB is part of the 7.2 release, including libX11 based on XCB for
>>> its transport... So that is all part of the fox7.3-merg anyway is it
>>> not ?
>>
>> No.   We did not pull it in with 7.2 and are not pulling it it with 7.4.
>> It is too large and complex a project to just roll in on the side of a
>> version bump, and we need to understand the libX11 interactions better
>> first.
>>
>> It's absolutely something we want to do, just not something we've had time
>> to do justice to yet.    (It's only been a few months since we finally got
>> libX11 to a X11R7.x version so we could even have the option of doing it.)
>>
>> --
>>        -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
>>         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
>>
>>
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