On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Eric Wong <e...@80x24.org> wrote: > "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" <god...@godfat.org> wrote: >> Hi, this is a bit off-topic, but I am wondering: > > Not off topic at all.
Haha, great. >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Eric Wong <e...@80x24.org> wrote: >> > We'll also stop advertising Rubinius compatibility: I am no longer >> > willing to deal with proprietary bug trackers. >> >> Is it because they are using GitHub's issue tracker? > > Yes, for rubinius and their rubysl-* stdlib Sadly I guess they are not going to change this any time soon. >> Is there any freely hosted issue tracker you might be >> suggesting? > > I can tolerate Redmine for mainline Ruby. Unfortunately it still > requires login+registration (but no legal terms-of-service to accept). >From what I've used so far, I like Redmine best, but there's no free Redmine hosting. > Debian's email-based BTS is the best I've seen (no registration); > but I do not like "formal" things such as > classifying/prioritizing/assigning/organizing bugs: I just fix bugs. > > For some projects, I'd rather file bug reports against the Debian > package and let the Debian maintainers deal with upstream trackers. > > Having only a mailing list works best for me :) Haha. Sounds like distribution maintainers really have a lot to do. >> Last time I tried to use freelists.org to replace Google Groups, >> it works ok. I am all for free software, but don't really want to >> bother any hosting :( > > savannah.nongnu.org offers ad-free hosting of mailing lists, bug > tracking, file hosting, etc. They're rather picky of things like having > copyright notices on every single file (even more so than Debian), but > it's not limited to GNU projects or even GNU licenses. I guess that won't work for me then. It would be great if we could have something built on top of Git so that hosting won't be an issue. Unfortunately all projects from what I know doing that all stopped developing. > I've only tried savannah's mailing list hosting and it seems fairly > spam-free (easy with Postgrey, but the delays can be annoying). > > I still prefer public-inbox+mlmmj (what this list uses) to Mailman, > though: password-free workflow, good defaults in mlmmj, > git synchronization of archives, SpamAssassin+incrond integration... My first impression is that so much I need to learn to host one :o > I actually don't have a /huge/ problem with Google Groups mailing lists > because it's still SMTP (not a proprietary API), and it's subscribable > w/o a Google account (for now). Of course, their spam filtering sucks > and as a result: every Google Group I'm on requires subscription to post > or even first-post-moderation. I think their web-based archives also > require proprietary JS to browse. mail-archive.com and gmane.org come > in handy there. Oh, that's a bit surprising to me. The problem I have with Google Groups is that their web-based archives is too annoying to me. Yes I could just use email to read/post or setup some other archives (actually I didn't think of this before, but I should probably do), but I want to take this chance to find some other alternatives. > That said, running public-inbox+mlmmj has been easier than I expected it > to be the past 7 months (as far as dealing with spam + bounces go). Is it possible to have a single script to set this up soon? If it's really that easy to maintain, I should probably try it out.
