I remember one cam that I had a few years back where the default software
download didn't install the drivers into the right place and I had to get
tech support from the cam's tech dept. and had to move the drivers to the C:
drive instead of the folder they ended up in.  That was causing my computer
to freeze up when I'd try to start the cam but once I had the drivers in the
right place, it worked fine with all app's.  The default software had the
drivers installed so the cam would only work with the default software
webcam service. 

I don't remember the brand name of that one but I'm sure other cam software
might do the same to try and make their software proprietary.  Check the cam
website for any tech bulletins addressing this issue for the person where it
was locking up their computer.  This probably isn't your issue since YM is
finding your cam without a problem.

I haven't used MSN Messenger (or I think they call it Windows Live Messenger
now) in a long time since they kept wanting to force upgrades instead of
allowing users to keep older versions.  I don't upgrade to new versions of
software until I am sure they have worked all the bugs out... unless it's a
security fix.  Same with YM... I'm still on 7.5 on my current computer
although I did download 8.1 on my new Vista laptop since 7.5 was designed
before Vista.  8.1 seems to be working OK with Vista although I haven't
tried hooking up a cam or anything else to it.

I have a blog on how I always do a clean re-install of YM at
http://lennyvasbinder.blogspot.com.  It's one of the recent blogs.  I just
started a new blog on the things I'm coming across on my change over to
Vista but I haven't added much to it yet.  I'll be updating that one more
this weekend.

Lenny Vasbinder

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Y!M] webcam

Thanks Lenny,
I will check out what you said. One of our users on the Y!M cannot even use
his camera, his computer locks up as soon as he tries to open the camera. So
I am assuming that there is just to much stuff running in the background.
Don't know for sure at this point.

I to am new to this Vista, I just had some major malfunctions with XP pro so
I finally decided to put Vista on a new HD and start over. It is functioning
great so far. But it is brand new to me so I don't know nuttin so far...

You are probably right about Yahoo servers being at fault for the choppy
video, I did not think of that. One of our next moves is to try a different
IM, Maybe the Microsoft version. Do you have any thoughts about that?

There are 3 of us at this point trying to make it all work. We are all HAM
operators and just like to play.

Thanks again, I will check out your info.

Stan



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: LNVTM1 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:10 PM
        Subject: RE: [Y!M] webcam


        You can find the version by clicking on the Help menu, then "About
Yahoo
        Messenger". I know there is a beta version out right now so I'm not
sure
        which version Yahoo is pushing on people downloading from Yahoo.
       
        In the future, it's better to go to a site like FileHippo.com or
your
        preferred software download site and downloading the full version of
YM.
        When you download from Yahoo, all they do is install a small
installer which
        then starts downloading the rest of the program in bits and pieces.
I've
        found this results in problems for some people due to security
programs that
        might inadvertently block one or more of the pieces or their
internet
        connection could result in a garbled piece. The installer is only
around
        500kb but eventually should download the full version where the full
version
        you would get from FileHippo.com is around 10MB from the start.
       
        You need to go through and set up your preferences as the defaults
from
        Yahoo are pretty bad. You can access them from the main Messenger
menu,
        then Preferences and go through all of the sections changing them to
what
        you prefer. Pay particular attention to the webcam settings and go
into
        them and tweak them to get best performance from your cam.
       
        You also need to go into your sound settings (via Control Panel) and
tweak
        your microphone. I'm not as informed with Vista as I just bought a
new
        laptop with Vista Home Premium and haven't spent much time fooling
with the
        Control Panel and all of the settings yet so I can't help you as
much with
        that.
       
        I don't think running in Safe Mode will help with your cam/mic
issues as
        they are either affected by the various panel settings on your
computer or
        in the programs or they could also be affected by the Yahoo servers.
        There's not much you can do about Yahoo servers. Sometimes you can
get a
        good connection, other times not.
       
        Lenny Vasbinder
       
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stan
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:27 AM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: Re: [Y!M] webcam
       
        I can speak for myself only, WOW, lots of questions!
        All my computers are homebrew, this one is a P4 3.4GHZ with 1G RAM
32Bit OS
        MS Vista Ultimate (New install) We both just downloaded the YM so I
assume
        it is the latest version. We are both on DSL, We have not tried
another
        service. What would that be? No chat rooms, would not even know how
to do
        that. The prefs are basically default. My computer is running
whatever
        installed when loaded plus Windows Live for security etc. Probably
his is as
        well.
       
        I am thinking of trying to run it in "Safe Mode" but have not done
that so
        far.
       
        Thanks
        Stan
       
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: LNVTM1 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:lnvtm1%40gmail.com> > >
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> > >
        Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:57 PM
        Subject: RE: [Y!M] webcam
       
        What kinds of computers... RAM, processor speed, etc.? What version
        of YM?
        Do you both have the same version? What kind of internet
        connection...
        dial-up, dsl, cable, T1? Have you tried webcamming and using mics
        through
        another service besides YM? Have each of you tried using webcam and
        mic
        individually in a yahoo chat room to see if maybe it's just one of
        you
        having a problem? How do you have your YM preferences set up for
        webcams?
        Do you have your computers running efficiently without a lot of junk
        using
        up resources?
       
        Lenny Vasbinder
       
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        computer.
       
        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stan
        Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:58 PM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [Y!M] webcam
       
        We are brand new to this toy and this group.
       
        Myself and another guy are trying to look at our mugs while talking
        on the
        microphone. The video keeps freezing and the audio has a bunch of
        noise like
        someone is banging a bunch of rocks. We can hear each other and
        sometimes
        see each other but the stuff is not working well. We both have
        logitech
        cameras.
       
        I expect that someone knows exactly what we are doing wrong. :-)
       
        Stan
       




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