Did you get a BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death... as it's called)?  Did you happen
to write down any of the error codes or did your computer just lock up where
you had to do a hard reboot? 

By chance, are you running AVG 8.0 as an antivirus?  I recently had to
remove it from one of my computers as it is causing BSOD's for lots of
people right now.  I normally like AVG but can't recommend it right now.
I'm using Avast now.  Both are free.

Your computer has enough resources to handle YM and webcam functions unless
you have a lot of other stuff running in the background.  If I remember
correctly, you built the computer so I'm guessing it's pretty lean as far as
junk since most junk comes preinstalled on new computer from the companies
like HP, Dell, Gateway, etc.... but it can also come from people downloading
and installing things using the default simple install instead of the
advanced install of programs.  Quite often, when doing a simple install, the
program will also come with things like toolbars or other add-ins that you
may not want.  I ALWAYS use the advanced option when installing new
downloads which then gives me the option of what I want to install.  I KNOW
that almost all Instant Messenger programs (YM, AIM, Windows/MSN, etc.),
Media programs (Quicktime, Real, etc.), etc. ALL will try to install junk
software with a download if you aren't careful. 

You know.. I just said you have enough resources but if I remember
correctly, you are running Vista Ultimate and I'm not sure if 1 gig of RAM
is really enough.  1 gig is fine for Windows XP but Vista is more of a
resource hog but still, YM and a webcam shouldn't be that much of a problem
unless you have some kind of conflict with drivers, etc..

Open Task Manager (right click on Task Bar and choose Task Manager).  Then
check out the number of processes you have running when you first start up
your computer and look down the list and Google any that you do not
recognize to see what they are.  You may not need them.  To give you an
example of Windows XP vs. Vista... when I "Show processes from all users" on
both systems, with XP, I have only 46 processes running and I have several
apps running right now on the XP system.  With Vista, on this new HP Laptop,
I have 74 processes running.  I still have to go through all of them and
start getting rid of some of the junk that HP preinstalled on the computer
so I'm sure I can get that down quite a bit but from all I've read, Vista
still has quite a bit more going on compared to XP which is why it needs so
much more RAM.  I have 3 gigs of RAM on this new Vista computer compared to
1 gig on my XP computer.  With Task Manager open, you can check to see how
many and which processes are running but you can also look at the
Performance tab and in the Physical Memory section, you will see your total
RAM listed and Available RAM to give you an idea of how much resources your
computer is using.  When on the Processes tab, click the View Menu and then
Select Columns and make sure you have columns for CPU, CPU Time, Mem Usage,
Peak Mem Usage, etc. so you can sort things by those columns so you can have
a quick glance at which programs are using up all your resources.  Often,
you will see evidence of some kind of conflict when a program usually runs
lean but then starts using lots of CPU or Memory (RAM).

It also sounds like you should do a full uninstall and clean reinstall of YM
as I outline on my blog at http://lennyvasbinder.blogspot.com just to make
sure it's not the problem. 

You should also get with the tech support of the webcam and make sure you
are installing it properly and also check their website for any software
fixes that might have been issued from the time it was manufactured to now.
These fixes should be free.

Lenny Vasbinder

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Y!M] webcam

My computer is a P4 3.4Gig with 1Gig or RAM. Should I expect it to
completely shut down while playing with IM and WebCam with two other guys? I
expect the video to be choppy and the sound to be choppy as well but my
computer totally crashed last night while playing around.

What do most folks have these days if they want to do these things. My last
upgrade was in 2005 but I see lots of stuff about "Core 2 Quad" CPU's etc
today. Is that what it takes?

I am not a gamer but I like "Fast" and I would like to be able to do the
other stuff folks enjoy without crashing.

Stan



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: LNVTM1 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:49 PM
        Subject: RE: [Y!M] webcam


        I remember one cam that I had a few years back where the default
software
        download didn't install the drivers into the right place and I had
to get
        tech support from the cam's tech dept. and had to move the drivers
to the C:
        drive instead of the folder they ended up in. That was causing my
computer
        to freeze up when I'd try to start the cam but once I had the
drivers in the
        right place, it worked fine with all app's. The default software had
the
        drivers installed so the cam would only work with the default
software
        webcam service.
       
        I don't remember the brand name of that one but I'm sure other cam
software
        might do the same to try and make their software proprietary. Check
the cam
        website for any tech bulletins addressing this issue for the person
where it
        was locking up their computer. This probably isn't your issue since
YM is
        finding your cam without a problem.
       
        I haven't used MSN Messenger (or I think they call it Windows Live
Messenger
        now) in a long time since they kept wanting to force upgrades
instead of
        allowing users to keep older versions. I don't upgrade to new
versions of
        software until I am sure they have worked all the bugs out... unless
it's a
        security fix. Same with YM... I'm still on 7.5 on my current
computer
        although I did download 8.1 on my new Vista laptop since 7.5 was
designed
        before Vista. 8.1 seems to be working OK with Vista although I
haven't
        tried hooking up a cam or anything else to it.
       
        I have a blog on how I always do a clean re-install of YM at
        http://lennyvasbinder.blogspot.com.
<http://lennyvasbinder.blogspot.com.>  It's one of the recent blogs. I just
        started a new blog on the things I'm coming across on my change over
to
        Vista but I haven't added much to it yet. I'll be updating that one
more
        this weekend.
       
        Lenny Vasbinder
       
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stan
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:50 AM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: Re: [Y!M] webcam
       
        Thanks Lenny,
        I will check out what you said. One of our users on the Y!M cannot
even use
        his camera, his computer locks up as soon as he tries to open the
camera. So
        I am assuming that there is just to much stuff running in the
background.
        Don't know for sure at this point.
       
        I to am new to this Vista, I just had some major malfunctions with
XP pro so
        I finally decided to put Vista on a new HD and start over. It is
functioning
        great so far. But it is brand new to me so I don't know nuttin so
far...
       
        You are probably right about Yahoo servers being at fault for the
choppy
        video, I did not think of that. One of our next moves is to try a
different
        IM, Maybe the Microsoft version. Do you have any thoughts about
that?
       
        There are 3 of us at this point trying to make it all work. We are
all HAM
        operators and just like to play.
       
        Thanks again, I will check out your info.
       
        Stan
       
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: LNVTM1 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:lnvtm1%40gmail.com> > >
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> > >
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:10 PM
        Subject: RE: [Y!M] webcam
       
        You can find the version by clicking on the Help menu, then "About
        Yahoo
        Messenger". I know there is a beta version out right now so I'm not
        sure
        which version Yahoo is pushing on people downloading from Yahoo.
       
        In the future, it's better to go to a site like FileHippo.com or
        your
        preferred software download site and downloading the full version of
        YM.
        When you download from Yahoo, all they do is install a small
        installer which
        then starts downloading the rest of the program in bits and pieces.
        I've
        found this results in problems for some people due to security
        programs that
        might inadvertently block one or more of the pieces or their
        internet
        connection could result in a garbled piece. The installer is only
        around
        500kb but eventually should download the full version where the full
        version
        you would get from FileHippo.com is around 10MB from the start.
       
        You need to go through and set up your preferences as the defaults
        from
        Yahoo are pretty bad. You can access them from the main Messenger
        menu,
        then Preferences and go through all of the sections changing them to
        what
        you prefer. Pay particular attention to the webcam settings and go
        into
        them and tweak them to get best performance from your cam.
       
        You also need to go into your sound settings (via Control Panel) and
        tweak
        your microphone. I'm not as informed with Vista as I just bought a
        new
        laptop with Vista Home Premium and haven't spent much time fooling
        with the
        Control Panel and all of the settings yet so I can't help you as
        much with
        that.
       
        I don't think running in Safe Mode will help with your cam/mic
        issues as
        they are either affected by the various panel settings on your
        computer or
        in the programs or they could also be affected by the Yahoo servers.
        There's not much you can do about Yahoo servers. Sometimes you can
        get a
        good connection, other times not.
       
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stan
        Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:27 AM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: Re: [Y!M] webcam
       
        I can speak for myself only, WOW, lots of questions!
        All my computers are homebrew, this one is a P4 3.4GHZ with 1G RAM
        32Bit OS
        MS Vista Ultimate (New install) We both just downloaded the YM so I
        assume
        it is the latest version. We are both on DSL, We have not tried
        another
        service. What would that be? No chat rooms, would not even know how
        to do
        that. The prefs are basically default. My computer is running
        whatever
        installed when loaded plus Windows Live for security etc. Probably
        his is as
        well.
       
        I am thinking of trying to run it in "Safe Mode" but have not done
        that so
        far.
       
        Thanks
        Stan
       
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: LNVTM1 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:lnvtm1%40gmail.com> >  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:lnvtm1%40gmail.com> >
        <mailto:lnvtm1%40gmail.com> > >
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> >
        <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> >
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> > >
        Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:57 PM
        Subject: RE: [Y!M] webcam
       
        What kinds of computers... RAM, processor speed, etc.? What version
        of YM?
        Do you both have the same version? What kind of internet
        connection...
        dial-up, dsl, cable, T1? Have you tried webcamming and using mics
        through
        another service besides YM? Have each of you tried using webcam and
        mic
        individually in a yahoo chat room to see if maybe it's just one of
        you
        having a problem? How do you have your YM preferences set up for
        webcams?
        Do you have your computers running efficiently without a lot of junk
        using
        up resources?
       
        Lenny Vasbinder
       
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stan
        Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:58 PM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [Y!M] webcam
       
        We are brand new to this toy and this group.
       
        Myself and another guy are trying to look at our mugs while talking
        on the
        microphone. The video keeps freezing and the audio has a bunch of
        noise like
        someone is banging a bunch of rocks. We can hear each other and
        sometimes
        see each other but the stuff is not working well. We both have
        logitech
        cameras.
       
        I expect that someone knows exactly what we are doing wrong. :-)
       
        Stan
       
       




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