Can ARM binaries be provided after the fact? We cannot increase the RM’s burden 
by asking them to generate an extra set of binaries.


> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> + Dev mailing list.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
> Date: Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop 3.3.0 Release include ARM binary
> To: junping_du <junping...@apache.org>
> 
> 
> thanks junping for your reply.
> 
> bq.      I think most of us in Hadoop community doesn't want to have biased
> on ARM or any other platforms.
> 
> Yes, release voting will be based on the source code.AFAIK,Binary we are
> providing for user to easy to download and verify.
> 
> bq.     The only thing I try to understand is how much complexity get
> involved for our RM work. Does that potentially become a blocker for future
> releases? And how we can get rid of this risk.
> 
> As I mentioned earlier, RM need to access the ARM machine(it will be
> donated and current qbt also using one ARM machine) and build tar using the
> keys. As it can be common machine, RM can delete his keys once release
> approved.
> Can be sorted out as I mentioned earlier.(For accessing the ARM machine)
> 
> bq.       If you can list the concrete work that RM need to do extra for
> ARM release, that would help us to better understand.
> 
> I can write and update for future reference.
> 
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> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brahma,
>>     I think most of us in Hadoop community doesn't want to have biased on
>> ARM or any other platforms.
>>     The only thing I try to understand is how much complexity get
>> involved for our RM work. Does that potentially become a blocker for future
>> releases? And how we can get rid of this risk.
>>      If you can list the concrete work that RM need to do extra for ARM
>> release, that would help us to better understand.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Junping
>> 
>> Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org> 于2020年3月13日周五 上午12:34写道:
>> 
>>> If you can provide ARM release for future releases, I'm fine with that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Akira
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:41 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <bra...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> thanks Akira.
>>>> 
>>>> Currently only problem is dedicated ARM for future RM.This i want to
>>> sort
>>>> out like below,if you've some other,please let me know.
>>>> 
>>>> i) Single machine and share cred to future RM ( as we can delete keys
>>> once
>>>> release is over).
>>>> ii) Creating the jenkins project ( may be we need to discuss in the
>>>> board..)
>>>> iii) I can provide ARM release for future releases.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:14 PM Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Brahma,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we cannot do any of your proposed actions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#owned-controlled-hardware
>>>>>> Strictly speaking, releases must be verified on hardware owned and
>>>>> controlled by the committer. That means hardware the committer has
>>>> physical
>>>>> possession and control of and exclusively full
>>> administrative/superuser
>>>>> access to. That's because only such hardware is qualified to hold a
>>> PGP
>>>>> private key, and the release should be verified on the machine the
>>>> private
>>>>> key lives on or on a machine as trusted as that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution.html#sigs-and-sums
>>>>>> Private keys MUST NOT be stored on any ASF machine. Likewise,
>>>> signatures
>>>>> for releases MUST NOT be created on ASF machines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We need to have dedicated physical ARM machines for each release
>>> manager,
>>>>> and now it is not feasible.
>>>>> If you provide an unofficial ARM binary release in some repository,
>>>> that's
>>>>> okay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Akira
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:57 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <
>>> bra...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As currently trunk will support ARM based compilation and qbt(1) is
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> from several months with quite stable, hence planning to propose ARM
>>>>>> binary
>>>>>> this time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ( Note : As we'll know voting will be based on the source,so this
>>> will
>>>> not
>>>>>> issue.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Proposed Change:*
>>>>>> Currently in downloads we are keeping only x86 binary(2),Can we keep
>>> ARM
>>>>>> binary also.?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Actions:*
>>>>>> a) *Dedicated* *Machine*:
>>>>>>       i) Dedicated ARM machine will be donated which I confirmed
>>>>>>       ii) Or can use jenkins ARM machine itself which is currently
>>> used
>>>>>> for ARM
>>>>>> b) *Automate Release:* How about having one release project in
>>>> jenkins..?
>>>>>> So that future RM's just trigger the jenkin project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts on this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/H-L/view/Hadoop/job/Hadoop-qbt-linux-ARM-trunk/
>>>>>> 2.https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> --Brahma Reddy Battula
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> --Brahma Reddy Battula


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