Hello,
I'd like to propose a small, but IMHO important improvement:
Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2016, 02:48:48 CET schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> YaST2
>
> Error
>
> Internal error. Please report a bug report with logs.
> Details: Unknown udev device /dev/disk/by-label/msdos.
> Caller: /usr/share/YaST2/lib/bootloader/udev_mapping.rb:33:in
> `to_kernel_device`
>
> Start the Ruby debugger now and debug the issue? (Experts only)!)
>
> [Yes] No
>
>
>
> Instructions? I have the laptop stopped at that point and waiting.
>
> Logs? It is a ramdisk. Not that simple, but I can try if I can mount a
> partition. I suppose you want the /var/log/ - wait, it would be
> systemd journal? Or YaST logs?
>
> What logs exactly do you want? Only the install ramdisk is available
> for commands.
It is not obvious for "normal users" [1] which logs are needed.
Please change the error message so that it contains a hint about
save_y2logs, for example:
Error
Internal error. Please report a bug report with logs.
Run "save_y2logs" to collect the needed logfiles. <---- add this
Details: [...]
This one-line addition will make it easier for users and give you better
bugreports.
Bonus points if you also add the bugzilla URL ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] Based on this definition (and after reporting several YaST bugs in
the past, and even somewhat understanding the YaST log format),
I probably don't count as "normal user" anymore ;-)
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