Cde's It's said because it is us again the working class fighting against each other. We know for a fact that Lekota is pro business therefore we must not expect nothing but more sufferings. He is not like Zuma ,at least Zuma pretends to be pro working class while we know that he is also for capital.up until the communists of this country finds their heads,we will continue being used AS IMPORTANT POLITICAL TOOLS.
In struggle,Cde Patra On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:30 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greeting to All > > Comrades and friend let me move out of Malema results. The incidents of > the past few days clash with Lekota's supports its not a laughing thing. > If we are clashing with them on their rallies we are giving them moral > boost they do not deserve. Let remember pre-1994 in KZN IFP was fight with > us after 1994 they got all lot of support and after that they are loosing > it and if we a going to engage them through confrontation its good for > them and media. Let focus on the work of mobilising people at rural and > townships for the elections of next year. The more we fight with them, its > the more they get support and assisting them get support. We need to the > CIA and M15 to stop this nonsense now. > > Amandla > > > > > Com > > > > you are inline and also you are proving what I've constantly mantained, > > that a debate should not be left in the hands of the so called fundi's. > > Although I'm in the E.Cape,I've had the oportunity to meet the comrade > > whilst he was at COSAS, he was this vibrant. Coming back to the issue of > > certificate,mine is similar to that of Malema, I'm a brilliant somebody > > even if I say so myself, however you will not see that in any > > certificate. The point I'm making is that, the dogs will bark at a > > moving car,if you wrestle with pigs you will get dirt and the pigs will > > love it.Malema deserves the respect that others claim he doesnt have,as > > a human being and as leader of one of the large youth formations in the > > continent.People should know that as youth our voice matter and Malema > > is that voice.We will be damned if we are going to let the so called I > > repeat the so called interlectuals to be the voice of our community,we > > dare not listen to them. the society has been hijacked by the phobia of > > political debate and we dare not give in. phambili Malema phambili!!! > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Cakwebe, Ronnie > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Malgas, Nicholas; Madlavu, Simphiwe; Bobani, Lindile > > Subject: FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results > > > > > > > > DERRICK HLUKANA NO MALEMA UZODLIWA ZIZINJA ZOMBUTHO IINTNGA ZAKHO KE > > PHOFU > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sabelo gina > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:27 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results > > > > > > Comrade Mondli, > > > > I am proud of you my chief, well articulated point. > > > > Comradely, > > > > Cedric Gina. > > > > > > On 10/24/08, Mondli Hlatshwayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi comrades > > > > I want to state it from the very onset that I am not a Julius > > Malema's fan. I really disagree with a number of statements that have > > been made by Malema in the media. I think his approach to politics is > > not advancing the interest of the South African youth but that is debate > > for another day. > > > > On the other hand, I do think though that those who are > > socialists and activists should not fall into the trap of the petty > > bourgeois elements, the analysts of the bourgeois order and the mass > > media. During our dark of the struggle, formal education and > > qualifications were always taken with a pinch of salt. We knew that in > > general formal education was there to serve the interest of the > > apartheid capitalist system. > > > > Our approach was to go to the school and use them as a site of > > struggle. Of course, we studied and got formal qualification but > > individual qualifications and certificates were not glorified. If you > > read a popular pamphlet issues by students of 1976 called, "To town, To > > Ellof", you will notice that for them the certificate was the struggle. > > We had a lot of comrades who did not have all these formal > > qualifications but they performed better politically. In many cases, > > these comrades were sharper than those who had university qualification. > > The struggle was their school. > > > > In fact, their education was what we call popular education > > which was based on collective learning and sharing of experiences. These > > were grassroots intellectuals or what Gramsci would call organic > > intellectuals. A number of these comrades were shop stewards, student > > leaders and so on. In fact, these comrades were able to debate with > > professors and academics. These comrades ran their own study circles and > > read the Learning Nation of the then New Nation. The mass movement and > > the struggle gave these comrades education. . > > > > Today, we are faced with a situation where certain petty > > bourgeois elements want to judge us on the basis of our grammar, > > pronunciation, certificates and even matric results. In other words, it > > is only those who have masters degree who are entitled to public > > opinions. We must never forget that the apartheid system never provided > > the black working class children with proper education. Even today, it > > is the kids of the middle class and the ruling class who are able to > > excel in formal education because they have all the material support > > from their parents. > > > > Over the past few days, I witnessed a very painful and a > > touching incident in Freedom Park, the South of Johannesburg. I had gone > > for a meeting there. There was a working class kid at the meeting. He is > > probably three years old but he could not hold the pen properly. Now if > > you were to compare that with middle class and upper class kids, what do > > you get? The kids from better family backgrounds at that age are > > starting to read and write. They even speak English fluently. They are > > exposed to computers. Now we can see right from the beginning that this > > working class kid is unlikely to compete with the kids of the middle > > classes. > > > > I have worked with a lot of good comrades who do not have > > matric results. Do I then undermine these comrades just because they > > never matriculated? I think that would be reactionary and backward on my > > part. I have to confess that these comrades sometimes perform political > > tasks much better than the certificate-wielding petty bourgeois > > elements. > > > > Yours in the struggle for the total emancipation of the working > > class > > > > Mondli Hlatshwayo > > > > 0843773003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Volkswagen of South Africa (Pty) Ltd. 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