COMRADES I HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE TWO MZUKISIS IN THIS DISCUSSION.* I AM MZUKISI RONYUZA AND I USE THE GMAIL. ANOTHER MZUKISI WHO HAS JUST JOINED THIS IS MZUKISI FROM UJ. * ** *WHILE WE ENGAGE AND INTERACT HERE LET US BE WARY OF CRUCIFYING THE WRONG JESUS. * ** *AMANDLA !!!*
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Alex M. Mashilo <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear comrade Mzu, > > I think there was more the NEC took into consideration when deciding to > challenge the use of the name Congress of the People, not COPE as such. > There are tactical consideration out of this challenge, and I'm certain some > of them have delivered intended objectives already. There is more to this > issue than just a legal challenge. > > > > * * > > *Mashilo, Alex MOHUBETSWANE * > > 011 689 1700/73/31 > > 082 9200 308 > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Mzukisi Ronyuza [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* 17 December 2008 10:58 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Judgement on abuse of 1955 Congress of > ThePeople > > > Please call me my leader, 072 696 1185. > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Godfrey Segoahla <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> *Percy, I have to agree with you more. We cannot allow ANC to become >> laughing stock. About COPE winning the case, I am sorry even the way >> decision taken by NEC to contest the name in the court of law. What we done >> we popularize COPE more than before. I think we arrive to a time to agree >> that this revolution is challenged and those who are challenging it they >> more capital power than us. Then the biggest question is, what is that the >> people of South Africa deserve? Can we manage to give them? How are we going >> to engage on reaching them? * >> >> *The confident we had right now should be utilize to benefit the people >> those who have love for their country and their people. I think we arrive to >> a place where we should stop all this intervention let the people speak.* >> >> ** >> >> >> >> *Magoro Segoahla* >> >> Snr Clerical Assist >> >> TEMBISA FIRE STATION >> >> Tel: +2711 394 0757 ext 337 >> >> Fax: +2711 974 1428 >> >> Fax to Email: 086 513 0055 >> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Percy Ndlala >> *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:59 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Judgement on abuse of 1955 Congress of >> The People >> >> >> >> Comrades, I think we are entangling ourselves in legal and petty arguments >> on the contest for hegemony within the South African society. I may not be >> capable of objectively analysing the political terrain currently, but I am >> not convinced that we are performing well under the circumstances. >> >> >> >> Firstly, it is almost an illusion to think that legally our revolutionary >> argument around the congress of the people and the freedom charter will >> grant us sole ownership of these heritage. The struggle was not a legal >> case study, we need to fight for it in the hearts and minds & soul of our >> people. What we are currently doing is to show that we are underdogs, losing >> hegemony of our struggle credentials in the process. >> >> >> >> Secondly, failing to comply with the system we created is frankly >> irresponsible and a sign of an administration and leadership that is not >> focused, or no leadership at all. How can the ANC fail to register >> candidates for an election? When did we start running out of comrades to >> deploy? I'm still to read about what the organization is doing to whoever >> is failing the organization. All I hear, painfully, is that we will >> challenge such mistakes in court. Not even members of the ANC are impressed >> by this ineptness, let alone those vacilating members of civil society. >> Surely we cannot afford to continuously portray a failing ANC. >> >> It will be progressive to go back to basics. Work in branches, and win >> hegemony within the masses regardless of who calls him/herself congress or >> convention of the people. Let's be brutally honest to any comrade who fails >> the ANC, even if it is an NEC member, we cannot afford to campaign and fail >> in court every fortnight and still hope that our people's confidence in the >> ANC will remain will remain unshaken. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, >> <[email protected]<[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Dear: Comrades >> >> Am utterly dissapointed that again the courts of this country have failed >> to distiguish facts from opinions by ANC dissidents. >> >> Or either the legal team representing us were unable to use documented >> historical facts to argue that COP is part and parcel of the furniture of >> the ANC. >> >> I am very much worried about the weight of our argument, read both >> affidavits on www.thetimes.co.za for further reference. >> >> It is a well documented historical facts that COP was first mooted in the >> ANC circles and the 1953 CAPE Conference in Cradock adopted a Proposal to >> convene a convention of South Africans which was made by the late, then >> ANC President of CAPE Prof Zachariah Keodirelang Mathews. >> >> COP is our own comrades, irrespective that we invited other organisation o >> serve on the ANC adopted NAC. >> >> >> I think we must appeal, this judgement. >> >> Thabo lekhu >> 0836969174 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >> >> <br >> >> *CONFIDENTIALITY & DISCLAIMER NOTICE* >> >> >> >> This message contains specific, confidential or proprietary information >> for exclusive use by the individual/entities to whom/which it has been >> addressed. 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