We do not have to produce Obama we have Umsholozi, you see South African conditions will never be similar to America. There was a need for Americans to have African president, for a change and also to prove a point. But I am not convinced that the picture painted there it is real picture. Lets give Obama a year or two and let us see what will happen. He must be careful not to be used by capitalist if not by the minority...and the powerful one. We have Umsholozi for new era and once we have ANC that is indeed contested terrain. This time the working class take a lead, and the capitalist want to sustain their outside the ANC. We do no need to produce Obama
Magoro Segoahla Snr Clerical Assist TEMBISA FIRE STATION Tel: +2711 394 0757 ext 337 Fax: +2711 974 1428 Fax to Email: 086 513 0055 Email: [email protected] ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Balindelwe Gwangwa Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: CAN SOUTH AFRICA PRODUCE ITS OWN OBAMA?: DEBATING AGAIST THE DEBATE!!! DEBATE AGAISNT THE DEBATE!!!!!! I totally agree with you however i do feel that as individuals we must understand the collective psychi of South African society. We are still children in the world of freedom/democracy so like any child we learn through imitation hence our passive behavior towards the "first world". Im not condoning the action nor am i giving an excuse im just saying there must be a reason and it was safer to assume that their actions was due to ignorance, wouldn't you agree? On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Bond <[email protected]> wrote: You're right, it's the wrong debate. Some articles I did on 'Obama not yet Uhuru' are here: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/ccs or here: # Can Africa survive Obama's advisors? by Patrick Bond < Dandelion Salad Patrick Bond, Durban Green Left Weekly 21 November 2008. One of US president- elect Barack Obama's leading advisers has done more damage to Africa, ... dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/can-africa-survive-obama's-advis ors-by-patrick-bond/ - 173k - Cached - Similar pages - # Patrick Bond, "Obama's Economic Advisors: Will Well-tested Enemies ... Obama's Economic Advisors: Will Well-tested Enemies of Africa Prevail? by Patrick Bond. One of Barack Obama's leading advisors has done more damage to ... www.monthlyreview.org/mrzine/bond121108.html - 39k - Cached - Similar pages - # Patrick Bond, "End of Neoliberalism? Sorry, Not Yet." More importantly, even if Obama restores a degree of US credibility at the level of ... Patrick Bond is based at the Centre for Civil Society in Durban. ... www.monthlyreview.org/mrzine/bond261208.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages - More results from www.monthlyreview.org > # allAfrica.com: Africa: Obama's Economic Advisors - Will Well ... One of Barack Obama's leading advisors has done more damage to Africa, ... Patrick Bond directs the Centre for Civil Society in Durban, South Africa. ... allafrica.com/stories/200811140487.html - Similar pages - # Obama: Channeling Clinton, extending Bush Patrick Bond | TRANSCEND ... Patrick Bond in this essay argues that while Obama was elected on a platform of change, his cabinet and advisor picks point to a return to domestic ... transcendafrica.net/?p=594 - 55k - Cached - Similar pages - > CONFIDENTIALITY & DISCLAIMER NOTICE This message contains specific, confidential or proprietary information for exclusive use by the individual/entities to whom/which it has been addressed. If you or your company is not the intended recipient kindly notify the sender immediately. Any use or dissemination of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. The content of this message does not constitute a commitment or an offer by Ekurhuleni Metropolitan Municipality, except where expressly provided for in a written agreement. Any views and/or opinions expressed by the sender do not necessarily represent those of the Ekurhuleni Metropolitan Municipality. Ekurhuleni Metropolitan Municipality do not accept liability or legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor any errors in or omissions to the content of electronically generated communications, or any loss or damages howsoever caused, arising as a result of reliance on the contents or unauthorised use thereof. Should verification be required, kindly request the sender to do so. Ekurhuleni Metropolitan Municipality have taken steps to ensure that this message is free from computer viruses, but the responsibility of detection and prevention lies solely with the recipient. Ekurhuleni Metropolitan Municipality does not warrant the integrity of the data transmitted, nor that it has not been corrupted nor previously intercepted and/or tampered with. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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