Cdes, The ANC has disciplinary processes that are enshrined in the annexure of the constitution. I am definitely sure that Cde TM is not indispensable and as a member he is subject to disciplinary processes if he has wronged the organization or is suspected to have wronged the movement. Part of discipline is that the structures of the organization should be allowed to exercise the responsibilities entrusted to them as enshrined in the constitution. If President Mbeki is wrong let him undergo due organizational disciplinary processes. Being victimized in media is equal to unfair trial and the abandoning of the principles of " equality before the law" and "innocent until proven guilty" within the movement. I only appeal that we do not guess what might have been the role he played and where. Cde Mbalula is a member of both the NEC and NWC. He understands internal processes of the ANC. If a member has not acted within the confines of the constitution, he knows what actions and processes should be followed. As we speak, the ANC has not charged Cde Mbeki of wrong doing. The ANC has not resolved in congress to expel Cde Mbeki from the organisation. President Mbeki has not been made aware of the ANC of his wrong doing such that he can either concur or dispute. Why do we assassinate not only his character but also his legacy. Even if negative to others, it will remain a reflection just like the reference we made on President Gumede, President Xuma, President Moroka and President Luthuli. How do we then make a center the ANC when the issue is about a member of the ANC who wrote in his personal capacity to another member of the ANC on an open letter for all to know? This is about President Mbeki with reference to the role he played in the ANC and not about decisions of the ANC. I am among those who will respect the outcome of internal disciplinary processes. I will be the one to spread the outcome to others, but as of now, I am convinced this are but gossips and fabrication to the name of one of the sons of the soil, one of our own, a dynamo groomed by the traditions of the congress movement. I am sure that a person who can tell us a better political story of President Mbeki is President Zuma, vice-versa. I rest my case!!!
>>> "Jacob Besnaar" <[email protected]> 4/21/2009 9:13 AM >>> I think that when we deal with this issue, the ANC should be our centre stage not the individual. No one has ever disregarded the contribution of Thabo Mbeki, but we I think we are just saying that in his era this are things that happened to the movement that where not in accordance with the traditions of the congress movement. What makes it even worse is the tendencies he has currently displaced towards the movement, that seeks to indicate indiscipline from a cadre of the movement. That is in my view what exactly we are addressing at the moment comrades. O.J Besnaar NAPPI Department Medikredit Integrated Healthcare solutions (Pty)Ltd Reg number 1995/001794/07 Direct number 0117706136 Switchboard 0117706000 Facsmile 0117706224 Mailbox [email protected] Website www.medikredit.co.za -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 21 April 2009 09:01 To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Mbeki a leader by distinction!! To all those who choose to ignore historical fact about the insurmountable contribution made by the former president of the ANC and the country respectively. I sincerely and truly believe you need to do a thorough political introspection to ensure you do not get stagnant in the epoch of clustered political hallucination and confusion. You cannot separate the ANC and Thabo Mbeki i mean the Cde was brewed,bread and buttered in the ANC and he has said it on number of occasions that his loyalty and interest remains deep rooted in the soul of the ANC . For us to judge the man is nothing but an act of inhumane and demonized political character which should be immediately chopped of without ceremony, no one is perfect if mbeki committed mistakes we should as a movement forgive him and also try to assist not to character assassinate the cde without any fact which proves any wrongdoing by the former president to divide the ANC. I move on the premise that we need to build not demolish the ANC. 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