Hayi mchana, maybe we should just disengage on this issue, and agree to disagree. We cannot turn a blind eye on Mbazo's below par performance just because Bafana generally played well. We are building a formidable team here, and we can't afford 2 b too lenient. As a matter of fact, a spy-two or beaten on pace cannot b regarded as a mistake, but simply that u were outplayed. I personally do not complain abwt our defence broadly, except for Mbazo. There are instances whereby players like Book and Gaxa were outplayed, but that is part of the competitive game.
In agreeing with you mchana, maybe we should create another different platform where Mbazo can gladly share his experiences with Bafana players without necessarily costing us games. He has outlived his durability in the field of play, but is about time that we thank him for the job well-done in his times and give other players an opportunity to add value in our team. Otherwise we will be risking him being booed out of the field by supporters who have thus far been patient with him. Like I'm saying mchana, I wouldn't wanna reduce this into a dialogue since it is clear that we hold fundamentally differing views on Mbazo's performance. But I know for a fact that many diehard fans of Bafana out there are getting increasingly impatient with Mbazo. I respect ur views on this matter though. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: bafana >Cadre, It is true that individual bring all stuff to the party.Are we then saying Mbaza come empty handed,albeit the same team that did us so proud was under his stewardship.This guy contributed in a lot of games and that is a fact.Are we saying an experienced defender cannot be beaten spy two or at pace,Is our coaching or technical team fast asleep or remote controlled. Leave Mbaso alone, has shared the wealth of experience with other players.Let us not be narrow and deal with Bafana as a whole. Yes, indeed we need to beef up our defence and striking force. A e lale Matla I beg to continue to differ cadre. The essence of a collective is that > it is composed of "individuals who bring about various strength, > expertise and abilities" towards achieving a certain objective. We > therefore cannot afford to be religious with the concept of collectivism > in football. > > I am not necessarily furious with Mokoena for glaring mistakes he > committed, but I'm just saying that he has become an undesirable > liability to our national team. There r mistakes that r difficult to > stomach, especially if there were costly and avoidable. If I am to apply > the theory of a "reasonable man" in the case of Mokoena, I would say, > given his experience, exposure to soccer at international level, his > leadership responsibility and understanding of what was at stake during > the Confed Cup, then he has led us down. In fact recently Mokoena has > just become nothing but a liability. Teko Modise was also not at his > best, but we can understand bcoz he has always been a pillar of strength > in the previous games. Now, when were you last impressed with Mokoena's > performance at the national team level? Booth, Masilela and Gaxa played > exceptionally well in marshalling our defence, but the same cannot b > said abwt our captain. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: bafana > > >> Cadre in football mistakes are prone to happen it is the beauty of the > game.Casting calls for mokoene to go does not assist us as a nation, as > football is a collective game of players it is not an individual sport. > If we were to single one player than we are losing the point of the > game. > Experience does not mean you do not experience new things daily.We > should > shoulder the perfomance of a team collective. > > Dankie > > Matla! > > Moleme Moleme > Sure guerilla, u r definitely correct mchana. But are we saying our >> country can't find a better defender to replace Mokoena? I struggle to >> identify his positive contribution throughout the Confed Cup, except > for >> his costly mistakes. He is just a liability we can't afford to live > with >> as the nation. My philosophy is that there is no room for errors when >> coming to some responsibilities of national importance, such as >> representing the country during the international competitive >> tournaments. Mokoena is an experienced defender and a soccer player > who >> should observe basic principles and tactics of a soccer game, such as >> not committing a tackle in a dangerous area whilst you are not the > last >> man in defence, and also that he should have headed the ball downwards >> if he was intending to score and not to defend in the game against > Spain >> on Sunday. We must therefore refuse to continue forgiving people for >> glaring mistakes that could have been avoided. So the bottomline: >> "Mokoena must go" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mxolisi Mlatha >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:26 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: bafana >> >> >> Cde Mamphekgo >> >> Cde Steve the revolution made me not to realise my latent >> soccer talent thus denying the nation a gem (ha! ha! haa!). >> On a serious note maybe Mokoena must just relinguish the >> captains arm band because it could also be putting too much >> pressure on him. Consequently he always try to take too >> much responsibility causing "fatal" mistakes in the >> process. Im prepared to concede that this was not his first >> costly mistake but we must not be too punitive; because in >> the same game we failed to score sitters that could have >> changed the whole complexion of the history of the game >> against Brazil. >> >> Mxolisi >> --- >> Sent from UnionMail Service [http://mail.union.org.za] >> >> >> Disclaimer:<br><br> >> This message may contain confidential information and is intended only > for >> the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should > not >> disseminate, >> distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately > by >> e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this > e-mail >> from your >> system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secured or >> error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, >> destroyed, arrive late or >> incomplete, or contain viruses. 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