Cde Mandla, General when Buti said that “Those who continue to call our leaders racist should never have illusions of receiving red-carpet treatment in this congress," was this not an indication that he played part in booing Cde Malema, When he acknowledge on 702 that "And I myself am not innocent ... It's time to act responsible (sic) for all of us -- admit that we played a role -- because the war talk is not benefiting nobody but our detractors." Wasn’t this a prove that he played crucial role in humiliating Cde Julius in front of millions of TV viewers.
You said that you are Marxist-Leninist and believe in scientific engagement to arrive at the truth. If indeed that is the true reflection of your character then there is hidden project at work here. You will agree with me that based on the recent utterance at the conference and radio 702 a fully fledge communist cadre would have easily conclude that personal interests are at work and the seeking of limelight has superseded the Alliance unity. To extend consideration a good Communist must be good at considering the situation as a whole, good at thinking in terms of the majority and good at working with his allies. I raised as well the immediate tasks that face us as YCL in this current conditions-Building strong branches-Developing good communists-Providing continuous political education. With these in mind would move from the elite club of young Communist that we see today to the true representation of the poor. The unity within the alliance structures is the fundamental prerequisite for advancement of core objectives of National Democratic Revolution which you will agree with me on this. It was political mistake for Cde Buti to attacked Malema in the first instance.Cde Malema was responding to what he was accused of being “African chauvinist”. Second instead of Jeremy to consult the youth league on the issue of Nationalization of mines on the bases that youth league might not have expertise in terms of nationalization however he went against his role as intellectual, Thinker and educator within the alliance to attacked Malema as a person. I repeat again cde that an attacked on the ANCY leaders is an attacked to YCL membership until the immediate task of YCL are completed which I doubt will be the case under the current leadership. In the next YCL elective conference we need leadership that is creative, of high standing, technicians with a good political level, who by reasoning dialectically can develop the masses and produce highest and respected communist cadres. Thobela, On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Mandla Radebe <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear cde Howard, > > > > Cde Ian from Zapu has been asked on numerous occasions to prove the > allegations he has made about the MDC being an “imperialist organization”, > amongst others, which he is yet to table to this forum. I still await cde > Ian’s evidence with bated breath! > > > > I am raising this example as I strongly believe that this principle is > fundamental, at least, in this forum so that spurious and baseless > allegations, which are potentially injurious, are avoided. As > Marxist-Leninists, I assume, “scientific” engagement (to borrow from > President Zuma) is paramount in the process of making one’s point. > > > > Therefore, your argument below is welcomed but to put some of us at ease > who are not members of the YCL, could kindly furnish this forum with factual > evidence on the allegations that: “Comrades the past weeks our senior > alliance comrades were booed at special SACP conference in polokwane and > this was well organized by few communist and without doubt the Secretary > General (I assume you meant National Secretary) Cde Buti Manamela and his > loyal lieutenants in the provincial office of YCL Limpopo” > > > > Your evidence will certainly enable some of us to follow the debate and at > some point engage constructively as we seek to advance the working class > hegemony in the terrain of the NDR. > > > > Thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *howard matjomane > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:09 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Buti Manamela on the wrong lane. > > > > Thanks very much for informative and constructive contributions you brought > to this YCL discussion forum. Comrades the past weeks our senior alliance > comrades were booed at special SACP conference in polokwane and this was > well organized by few communist and without doubt the Secretary General Cde > Buti Manamela and his loyal lieutenants in the provincial office of YCL > Limpopo. It was indeed very unfortunate and I believe that if you have > got issues with the individuals as a true communist you must address it in > manner that will prioritized unity of the alliance structures. > > As a communist myself I felt that my image being tarnished by certain > sections of opportunist communist who cannot even project the suitable > conditions simply because they have got the micro phone near them and they > can just as they like. > > These are with no doubt comrades who cannot understand the difficulties > that we encounter in building the structures of YCL at grass roots level. > You can’t build effective and efficient structures as well as communist > cadres at news café of the fundamental concern is political education > across all YCL branches which never happen-Building strong structures that > are not depending on ANCYL-Campaign to educate young people in particular > the high school students on the struggle for socialism. > > If you have to come to a real truth, All YCL members were recruited from > strong branches of the ANCYL –ANCYL sub regions and Regions have worked hard > to ensure the existence of YCL branches under difficult conditions. As such > for Comrade Buti Manamela to attack the ANCYL leader basically means he is > attacking his own members who elected him and that comrade is truth. The > impression given is that YCL leaders at National level are not in touch with > their branches and have no understanding of the life of their own branches. > > I’m not saying Buti must not defend the leadership of SACP but booing > senior youth leader is definitely unacceptable and completely misguided. > Comrades when you go in battle you must have trained and tested commanders > and competent soldiers but Buti and his loyal lieutenants’ decided to do > other way round. But they must remember that it was solely on the bases of > not having full understanding of the general membership and on depending too > much on theory without practice that Comrade Josiah Tshangana Gumede was > toppled in 1930. > > "Everywhere the oppressed peoples were being inspired by that ideal of > emancipation which found expression in the Russian revolution. There was > still an illusion that the people would obtain justice from the British > Government. But the plain truth was that they had again and again failed in > their petitions to the British Government, and that their supplications to > the Governor-General had been futile. 'We now have to rely on our own > strength . . . We have to demand our equal economic, social and political > rights. That cannot be expressed more clearly than to demand a South African > Native Republic, with equal rights for all, but free from all foreign and > local domination'". > > It was this important speech that destroys his chances of getting > re-elected at 1930 conference solely because he was a leader far ahead of > his time, but perhaps too far ahead. > > “To ignore the real situation and to play about with imaginary forces, > concepts and ideals is to invite failure. The art of revolutionary > leadership consists in providing leadership to the masses and not just to > its most advanced elements; it consists of setting a pace which accords with > objective conditions and the real possibilities at hand “ > > This should serve as major lesson to all of us that is important to first > understand how our basic units are build and who constitute that, and who > are the architect of this structures. It is not going to be surprise move > when overwhelming majority of YCL removes Buti Manamela from his position > soon. > > Comrade communists the time has come to deal with over ambitious and > opportunists leaders in the YCL to deal with comrades who took significant > decision alongside their girlfriends in up market pubs to influence SACP to > go alone in local government elections without consulting its branches. > > Thobela. > > > > Howard > > > > <[email protected]> > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. 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