I think Nndwamato you are defenatly missing the point, I can only agree with you wen you say anyone who is hell bent in a congress of the YL should and shall be dealt with accordingly but I find it surprising that you suggest that apartheid tactics are advisable as solution in with holding principles of the movement, in that cadre I differ with you fundamentally.
History will tell you that the only intimidation tactic used by the then apartheid system to send shivers into our comrades spines was bringing security forces, either to intimidate or maneuver process to those that have sent them in. there is a constitution in the organization, and there are also comrades in the same organization, it is for the best interest of the organization that delegation as determined by constitutional structures shall be adhered to, however if anyone enters a congress un-invited, it is the right of comrades in that congress to request the person to leave, failure to do such, it is only then we can consider other alternatives.... Guns in a congress of the Youth league are totally unexceptionable and I don't and cant find any reason to however invited that thug to do such. However the comrade/s might be frustrated and it is normal for such to happen, if you have been following the Amathole dispute you will learn that more than 90% of comrades who are from that region shared the same sentiments with what the comrade has just posted, it is however true that comrades must follow right channels to deal with this matter, But may I also remind you that these comrades have also constitutional rights... and moering someone is violation of such...not trying to say otherwise but... Posed here is a question... this ongoing unti-communist tendency goes back to what Julius said few months ago "...see what is coming your way..." is this what he meant. Remember what Julius say goes in the NEC of the ANCYL and if a ruling by King Julius is that communist must be killed and moered that will happen... I am not surprised, but since there are a lot of congress coming let us hope this things wont happen in any of the up-coming congress. Hope you understand my leader. ________________________________ Hasta Siempre la comandante Sithembewena Tsembeyi Socialismo o Muerte... ________________________________ ________________________________ From: Nndwamato Mutshidza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 1:24:02 PM Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] True Story: ANC Youth League Conference in Amathole Region But Cde Viwe, Its looks like you are not cultured in the Movement, this is not a Constitutional Platform to deal with Organisational matter. As a Chairperson myself like you, I would advice you to get to understand the difference between the ANC/ANCYL/PYA/SACP/COSATU/SANCO and other formations like COPE. When there are organisational flaws on procedures you write to the SG as a delegate and the NEC will send a full investigating team. What you intend to do is tantamount to espionage and bring the organisation into disrepute, which make it difficult to understand your intentions of wanting to deal with the Movement through media. Like you said you have proof to back your allegations, you must then send that through the correct structural channel and we will then rescue the movement from foreign tendencies. On the lighter note, there is nothing wrong with bring security personal to ensure that those who are not suppose to be in conference/congress are dealt with accordingly. However I am not suggesting that what they did was correct or right as I do not know the circumstances that lead to them moering you cdes. There is no difference to calling Police to guard our conferences and to arrest those that are hell bent and reducing the movement to their own properties. Please leader, detailed your report and file a complaint for the attention of the SG and CC the Provincial Secretary and even the Elected REC must be carbon copied because there is nothing sinister here. Cdely, Tom Mutshidza >>> "Samuel Somcuba" <[email protected]> 3/31/2010 1:02 PM >>> Dankie Comrade Viwe I don’t want to take sides to the still one sided story that has been presented to this forum, but I have a plea though, please take this issue to the relevant ANC structures and leadership and may you please do not take the video to the media, not that I also have Cde Floyd tendencies of being media allergic, for the love of the ANC may you please do that, and taking into consideration please do not post it either to this forum, as you are now aware that kunabathebuli ( Nqaba) , again for the sake our organisation please reserve that for now, I would like to pause Samuel Somcuba 'the only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and faith to believe its possible" ________________________________ From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Viwe Sidali Sent: 31 March 2010 12:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] True Story: ANC Youth League Conference in Amathole Region SITUATION IN THE AMATHOLE ANC YOUTH LEAGUE CONFERENCE (THE TRUE STORY): >The 3rd Amathole Regional Conference of the ANC Youth League that took place >in the past weekend was a drama. The Provincial Secretary of the ANC YL, >Ayanda Matiti with the PEC Amathole Deployee, Nomfesane Nyathela, and NEC >Deployee, Kenetswe Masenogi were the main people who make the conference a >caos. The Conference was full of irregularities. The Branch delegates were >changed, and the audit report was new, meaning that it was suppose to be given >21 days for branches to interact with it. The anarchy showed by the deployees >will never be tolerated in the ANC Youth League. The NEC Deployee, sing with >Matiti the song "Dubul'ibhulu, Dubul'ikomanisi" and later Matiti give orders >to the bouncers to beat people. Fortunately for us, we managed to video rise >the conference. There is a Video, and will be made available to the media, to >the NEC of the ANCYL and the truth is there. ANC Regional Secretary, Sotshane >is a disgrace in this organization together with Buffalo City Municipality councilors, like Siyabonga Jabavu. Councilor Jabavu was inside the conference centre assisting when the pure delegates were beaten up. He is not the member of the ANCYL and even a delegate, why he was there? The video of the conference is available and in detailed. Where in the history of the ANCYL conferences no credentials presented? Where in history of this glorious movement you see bouncers? The bouncer by the name of B-Man carried a gun. The conference was planned to kill communists. If Sotshane was formal invited, what he did as the Regional Secretary, when the delegates were fighting? What he did when the delegates were injured? The response is simple, he rejoices, he continues to sing with Matiti that "Dubul'iBhulu, Dubul'ikomanisi". I was there as the delegate and indeed I observe everything. The video is available and in details. Thanks that we managed to capture the proceedings. Its time for Matiti to apologise to the PYA. >From : Viwe Sidali > ANC Youth League Branch Chair & Delegate -- You are subscribed. 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