Cdes,

Before anybody accuses me of selectively not quoting the media *et cetera*,
I should tell you that I have too many commitments this week.

So, as much as I would like to fuel up the debate with some of the many
reports that are available, I don't have the time this week.

Those of you who are students of ancient Greek classical mythology will know
what I mean if I say that this is the week when* hubris *is going to
overtaken by *nemesis*.

I will continue to read my e-mails and will be on guard for you against
spammers, as usual.


Best,

VC





On 12 April 2010 10:08, howard matjomane <[email protected]>wrote:

> Cde definitely you have been misinformed, the congress went well
> despite the group of disgruntled delegates less than 15 if not 10 who
> by all means wanted  to disrupt the congress.
>
> “Masoga or WAR” this were some of the songs and you could tell that
> the group wasn’t even ready to accept the defeat to an extent that
> they go into media telling lies and  potraying the congress as
> chaotic.
>
> Indeed if they had a point they should have engaged credentials
> committee headed by their own deputy secretary instead of booing
> leaderhip of the province and ANCYL president.
>
> We remain disciplined throughout the enter proceedings even after
> several attempts to provoke us.
>
> After several  efforts to get the group behave –National deployee had
> no option but to call security  not police as some media have reported
> .
>
> Because their intention was clear to disrupt the congress as it was
> clear that they have lost -the deputy secretary was arrested for
> stealing the conference credentials and amongst them was eight  unkown
>  ID’s.
>
> "Economic  freedom in Our lifetime"
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Dominic Tweedie
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The ANC YL bureaucracy disqualified a large number of delegates that were
> > not going to support them, dismissed the Congress arrangements committee,
> > threw out the media, and have now rigged a result - see Floyd's latest
> > update.
> > Throwing out the media is a defiance of what JZ said this morning.
> > This is either a fascist coup in progress, or it is going to be a good
> > clean-out. It's a big breaking story but there is hardly any coverage.
> There
> > was a bit of TV footage, up to the point where the cameras were thrown
> out.
> > COSATU was supposed to have a bilateral with the ANC today, but the
> meeting
> > was abandoned after an hour because too few people pitched.
> > When Vavi was interviewed by Jeremy Maggs on TV about his wife's business
> a
> > few days ago, he re-floated the Floyd "brown envelope" lie. He also said
> > that the people out to get him were those who did not like his lifestyle
> > audit ideas. That includes the SACP which has said it should stay with
> SARS
> > (e.g. the Sowetan article you have just seen).
> > He also attacked the party on another occasion and failed to pitch at a
> > party anti-corruption meet last Monday.
> > Issy is not too good. The news is not good. We will try to go and see him
> > tomorrow.
> > Best,
> > Dom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10 April 2010 20:12, James Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This isn't very enlightening. Why did the members in question say they
> >> were delegates? What branch or district meeting did they say they were
> >> elected at? Why did the congress credentials committee say they weren't?
> Was
> >> there another group claiming to be delegates from the same branch or
> >> district, which was accredited instead?
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> On 10 April 2010 17:21, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Nyiko Floyd Shivambu <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: 10 April 2010 18:18
> >>> Subject: ANC YL Media UPDATE ON THE LIMPOPO ANC YOUTH LEAGUE PROVINCIAL
> >>> CONGRESS:
> >>> To: anc-yl-media <[email protected]>, ancmedia
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> UPDATE ON THE LIMPOPO ANC YOUTH LEAGUE PROVINCIAL CONGRESS:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 10 April 2010
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The African National Congress Limpopo Provincial Congress which was
> >>> supposed to officially begin on 10th of April 2010 has been delayed due
> to
> >>> disputes on registration and credentials of Congress delegates. At
> Congress,
> >>> there was a certain group of people who contended that they were
> supposed to
> >>> be delegates and chose to interfere with congress proceedings, rather
> than
> >>> adhere to the process that was outlined by the congress leadership.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Reports that there was throwing of chairs and altercations at the
> >>> Provincial Congress are disgustingly incorrect and intended at
> portraying
> >>> the ANC Youth League as an organisation which is at war with itself.
> The ANC
> >>> Youth League National leadership has taken over administration and
> >>> facilitation of the Provincial Congress and will make sure it concludes
> its
> >>> business and objectives before the delegates return to their homes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The ANC Youth League national leadership will live to keep its promise
> >>> that all regional, provincial and national congresses of the ANC Youth
> >>> League are peaceful and productive gatherings of the organisation with
> clear
> >>> mandate to strengthen the organisation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Issued by the African National Congress Youth League
> >>>
> >>> Contact Floyd Shivambu—0828199474
> >>>
> >>> Paseka Letsatsi—0828839969/0833758930
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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