I beg your pardon, maqabane! I wrote this in a hurry... The statement should have read: Therefore to blame new democratic order without reconciling itself with these complexities is equally myopic and foolhardy.
I trust you will find this in order "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - Joe Slovo --- On Wed, 6/23/10, morgan phaahla <[email protected]> wrote: From: morgan phaahla <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Please comment on this article To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:21 AM Comrades, I was not suprised by the tone of this article and would not draw the name of Govan Mbeki in the subject simply because Moeletsi has distinguished himself as a renegade and political nonentity. I hate sounding like someone who trades insults or name-calling to establish basis for an argument. However, at times provocation like this can lead one to such limits. Be as it may, if you read Moeletsi's book, Architects of Poverty: Why Africa's Capitalism needs Changing, you will draw a parallel between this article and the book. For instance, the book does not offer any solutions to Africa or alternative economic system except to apportion blame on its previous leaders doing wrong under the pretence that colonial capitalism was not the root cause of these wrongs. The same can be said in the article, it's common knowledge that Apartheid capitalism was an instrument of destruction in South Africa and all models of reconstruction failed to yield desired results due to the severity of the mess caused to this country by the Nats. Therefore to blame new democratic order without itself with these complexities is equally myopic and foolhardy. As such, I see no need to dignify Moeletsi's malady of mind with a response. However, for the benefit of this forum, comrades should post their views on the subject matter and challenge this incompetent and inept article. Remain, Morgan Phaahla "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - Joe Slovo --- On Mon, 6/21/10, sabelo gina <[email protected]> wrote: From: sabelo gina <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Please comment on this article To: [email protected] Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 2:01 PM Dear Comrades, I agree with Dominic that the article was reactionary and opportunistic from Mr Mbeki. This is the same Mr Mbeki who has written a book on the mining industry in South Africa few months ago. I am ashamed that Mr Mbeki once worked for COSATU, and yet he says that the time is ripe for COSATU to leave the Alliance. I am not surprised when Nqaba defends Mr Mbeki and Rossouw because they are raising what Cope tried to do and failed to chase COSATU from the ANC with assertions like 'I did not join the struggle to be poor", we stayed in the midst of that provocation. COSATU is committed to an alternative economic system and therefore I do not think that its existence is about opportunistically weighting the opportunities and timing for forming a political party. We are far ahead of the likes of Morgan from Zimbabwe who when he saw the possibility of entering parliament tried to form a political party which has not been able to carry the aspirations of workers of Zimbabwe even as a prime minister in the Zimbabwe government. We will not leave the alliance, we will help the alliance and the ANC to rid itself of people who have forgotten why we fought for freedom in the first place. Regards, Sabelo On 6/21/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: Then please defend the article Cd Nqaba, and not just on the basis of your acquaintance and friendship. The article says: "These companies played a pivotal role in the transition from Afrikaner nationalist rule to African nationalist rule," and there is more in that spirit. This is a return to the falsification of history whereby the big bourgeoisie is held to have been the agent of revolutionary change in South Africa. It leads to the proposal of the big bourgeoisie as a "motive force" and part of the alliance. This is what I am calling reaction. VC On 21 June 2010 15:03, Nqaba Bhanga <[email protected]> wrote: Govan has never Called Moeletsi a Reactionary ,who are you and i know he is not a reactionary . I hope we understand the meaning of a reactionary in a Revolutionary Politics. Disclaimer Before acting on the contents of this e-mail, the recipient should verify that the originator has the appropriate authority and any person neglecting to obtain such verification will be acting entirely at his/her own risk. Please further note that any confidential, private or privileged information contained in the message is subject to legal privilege. -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. 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