Marxists and readers of Umsebenzi alike must begin to probe and interrogate some of these concepts. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: sabelo gina <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:00:35 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] The ANC is not a corrupt organisation - Nzimande Comrade Zamikhaya, I submit that I support Cde Morgan's view that your earlier intervention totally ignored the issue of corruption that was raised. Comrade Mzala and many other comrades attempted on many occasions to elucidate Marxism in contemporary language of their time and even with the term used by the General Secretary of the SACP, I would argue that it is easily understood by readers of Umsebenzi and participants in this forum. I am happy to hear you declaring that you are a Marxist that has not moved an inch from marxist teachings which is great, what remains is that when you get an opportunity to comment on pertinent issues in the media, as you used to be invited, you will champion the Marxist views of what should be done. It would be nice of you to engage in this forum on the Paris Commune and what can be our lessons as South Africans seeking to abolish capitalism for a longer period, to at least untill we die and sustain sociaism for the next generations to come. Please make us become Orthodox Marxist-Leninist scholars. How is DBSA, are you still there? Regards, Sabelo Gina. On 6/29/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Comrade Morgan I fully agree with you and as you correctly argue we have to > declare a war against corruption which is perpetuated by the lumpen > bourgeoisie. The problem that I have is when Marxist employ non-Marxist > terminologies in explaining social phenomenos which need an undiluted > Marxist interpretation and analysis. As Communist we need to guard against > theoretical diversions. When last did you hear about the term Dictatorship > of the Proletariat in the modern Marxist thought, let alone the Paris > Commune as a kind of "working class state. Marxist diversionists and > revisionists alike will tell you how outdated Orthodox Marxism is,to me this > is a problem and the Party leadership should not be applauded when it > employs non-Marxist terminology in analysing the South African situation. Or > else you run a risk of over-explaining yourself apologetically as Blade's > article does exactly that to a lesser degree! This is the point I was trying > to drive home. I remain an Orthodox Marxist-Leninist scholar! > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: *morgan phaahla <[email protected]> > *Sender: *[email protected] > *Date: *Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:55:53 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] The ANC is not a corrupt organisation - > Nzimande > > > Comrade Zimakhaya, I don't think we have to over-trivialise the term > "tenderpreneur" in order to antagonise cde Blade's article. Otherwise we > will shift focus from the subject which is corruption where a few > politically-connected individuals with no trade history or little > industrial know-how are parasitically benefitting. > > The crux of cde Blade's article, essentially, is that entrepreneurship > offers an improvement in the standard of living and growth path out of > proverty to meet the objectives of a better life for all, without being > entirely reliant on government/private sector tenders or contracts for > survival. In SA, small businesses contribute about 30 percent to the GDP and > 70-80 percent in employment. This is as a result of the dynamic culture of > entrepreneurship to turn noble ideas into a viable business opportunities. > > Cde Blade is therefore correct that tenderpreneurship expresses the worst > of the intersection between holding a political position and business > interests. Because they are not necessarily entrepreneurial in nature or > possess any capacity to create employment. > > It's against this background that there is nothing flawed with highlighting > the parasitically arrangement of tenderpreneurship. We know very well that > tenderpreneurs tend to use a certain connection or influence to obtain > government/private sector work without any skill or expertise to execute the > specification of that particular tender/contract. > > Put simply, tenderpreneurs are simply political entrepreneurs with no > business plan yet their principal business involve exploiting inside > information for a net political benefit at the prejudice of genuine > entrepreneurs. How do you get a tender to construct a road or build houses > when you have no background of the field whatsoever or any clue of the > technical know-how involved in the execution of a project of that magnitude? > This is what is flawed, if not equal to fraudulent misrepresentation of the > skill, capability and capacity to do such work. And cde Zamikhaya, you will > agree that this borders on corruption which cde Blade alluded to, > wherein tenderpreneurs loot from our economy through tenders they possess no > requisite skill to deliver on the specifications of that particular tender. > > We cannot plead ignorance when it's evident that patronage and > tenderpreneurship are strange bedfellows whose objectives are to > host corruption in pursuit of various business interests to enrich > themselves. Let's be frank and open about what remains the enemy of the > overwhelming majority of our people, the workers and the poor. Of course, > corruption is a major threat to our revolution and we must not only use > campaigns to fight it but expose all its manifestations. > > I remain, > Morgan Phaahla > > "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - > Joe Slovo > > --- On *Sun, 6/27/10, [email protected] <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] The ANC is not a corrupt organisation - > Nzimande > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:49 AM > > As far as I am concerned the term "tenderpreneur" is a flawed concept which > will find no accomodation in the field of political economy as a discipline. > The Depedency School of Thought has much more interesting terminology that > describes what the SACP seeks to describe and theirs is deeply rooted in > Marxism. Revisiting Andre Gunder Frank's work as well as that of Emmanuel > Wallerstein on the International Political Economy might help us to get out > of the ideological and conceptual recession. It's better to employ Marxian > concepts if we are to understand South Africa's political economy. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dominic.Tweedie" <[email protected]> > *Sender: *[email protected] > *Date: *Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:16:25 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: *[email protected] > *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] The ANC is not a corrupt organisation - > Nzimande > > > > [image: City Press] > * > > The trouble with tenderpreneurs* > > *Narrow BEE has empowered a small elite while workers continue to be > ‘casualised’* > > > > *Blade Nzimande, City Press, Johannesburg, 27 June 2010* > > A letter in last week’s City Press implied that the South African Communist > Party (SACP) uses the term “tenderpreneur” to refer to all those who apply > for and get government tenders. This is not true. As much as we are opposed > to capitalism, the SACP makes a very clear distinction between entrepreneurs > and tenderpreneurs. > > Entrepreneurs, found in co-operatives, and small- and medium-sized > businesses, are those who honestly go about doing business, including > tendering for government work. Tenderpreneurs, found in both public and > private sectors (and often the two colluding), are those who corruptly > capture government tenders using their political positions or connections. > > In fact, tenderpreneurs pose the biggest threat to genuine entrepreneurs > because the latter often do not have inside information or the necessary > political connections to get public or private sector tenders. > > “Tenderpreneurship” expresses the worst of the intersection between holding > a political position and business interests. The SACP has identified as > urgent the need to fight this intersection to ensure that political office > is not used for personal enrichment. > > The SACP is also fully aware that the deliberate conflation of > entrepreneurs and tenderpreneurs is often done by those very tenderpreneurs > who are trying to discredit our campaign to fight corruption, both in the > public and private sectors. > > Our detractors, both inside and outside of our movement, also try to > castigate our campaign against corruption as a campaign against the ANC. > > Our position is clear: The ANC is not a corrupt organisation! Nor is the > problem only to be found within the ranks of the ANC. But in all of our > alliance formations, there’s a minority of tenderpreneurs and other corrupt > elements who use their political positions to enrich themselves. > > For example, in the SACP we have also produced our own tenerpreneurs, such > as Phillip Dexter of Cope, who often used the cover of being a senior > official of the SACP to pursue his various business interests. Our action to > eradicate such behaviour precipitated his jump to Cope. > > Let us restate the obvious. We all agree on the need to transform the > economy and to make sure that the economy is more inclusive by giving > expression to the commitments to the Freedom Charter. However, we believe > that the model of black economic empowerment (BEE) followed over the past 15 > years has not taken us in the right direction. > > Transforming our economy and empowerment must, in the first instance, mean > investment in building the productive capacity of our economy to create jobs > and to meet the needs of the overwhelming majority of our people, the > workers and the poor. Instead, narrow BEE has empowered a small elite while > workers continue to be “casualised” and outsourced at the mercy of labour > brokers, even by some of the companies with BEE “credentials”. > > Furthermore, BEE has just become an adjunct to the very same > non-transformed, colonial-type economy, where many white-owned companies > simply chase politically connected individuals to secure more business. > > This does not mean that all of BEE has exhibited these features, but they > have certainly been a dominant one of BEE. > > The SACP is therefore calling for a fundamental rethink of BEE that must be > linked to industrial policy and the fostering of a new growth path in our > economy. > > In the current phase of our struggle, we need the unity of all progressive > forces in co-operatives and business to fight the scourge of > tenderpreneurship. We also need to ensure that there is more transparency in > the awarding of government tenders, including publicly revealing companies > that are shortlisted and awarded such tenders, and the reasons behind the > decisions. > > Corruption and tenderpreneurship are also rife in the private sector, and > must be fought there with the same vigour as in the public sector. That is > why the SACP and Cosatu have committed to supporting progressive trade > unions to expose corruption in the private sector. > > Our ANC-led alliance has committed to ensuring that our organisations are > not used as refuge for corrupt individuals and that our elective congresses > are not contaminated by dirty money. > > > - Nzimande is general secretary of the South African Communist Party > > > > > -- > You are subscribed. 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