Actually, Cde Morgan, the business of "sub judice" is problematic.
In this case, where Mzilikazi wa Afrika and his co-accused have been remanded until November, it could mean that people would refrain from discussing this matter for three months. I don't think there is any good reason why that should be the case. "Sub judice" means, literally, "under the judge". The only time a case is really "under the judge" is after all the evidence and the lawyers' arguments, and while the judge is considering the verdict. At that stage, for a week or two, there is very little use in speculating. But we are nowhere near that stage and there is nothing that says people may not comment. There is no "law of sub judice". It does not exist. It is a myth. The problem with this case is not "sub judice" but only that the situation is not clear, although it is getting clearer. Mzilikazi wa Afrika was shown on TV this evening saying that he thinks the whole police operation is nothing but intimidation. Some NGOs have taken a public view that it is intimidation. Zille has, of course, rushed to take advantage. I think that in the next few days it will become possible for political organisations to take an informed public stance. The story about the "fraudulent letter of resignation" is weak. How do you make fraud with a letter of resignation? It doesn't make sense. The story that it is police revenge on wa Afrika for exposing the apparently outrageous R500 million extravagance of moving police headquarters from one building to another similar building, is, on the other hand, all too plausible. Bheki Cele is the one who suddenly reintroduced military ranks into the police, over the objections of COSATU affiliate POPCRU. That was a rash, ill-considered act. Therefore we do know that Cele is capable of such acts. That's about as far as the case can be taken as of today, but not because of any "sub judice". Contrary to "sub judice", in my opinion we should encourage anybody with firm information to speak out without delay. No doubt the Sunday Times will do so by this time tomorrow. This story is not going to go away in a hurry, and we will not be able to sit on the fence forever. VC On 6 August 2010 15:31, morgan phaahla <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with cde VC, the matter is sub judice. > > Until such time there is a fair trial and ruling thereof, we shall study > the verdict and comment on the matter or protest if need be. > > Morgan > > > "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - > Joe Slovo > > --- On *Fri, 8/6/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] A Duhring Wanna BEE > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 8:28 AM > > > If you have good info please post, cde Trevor. > > If it proves to be a case of intimidation by the police, then we must > protest, just as we protested against the "Hollywood" of the Scorpions > (which the media loved at the time, as you may recall). > > > VC > > > On 6 August 2010 14:18, Trevor Kekana > <[email protected]<http://us.mc502.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Comrades, > > > > Is it my ignorance or selective reading that I did not read comments nor > postings regarding Mzilikazi Wa Afrika’s arrest and intimidation on this > particular forum? > > > > Regards > > Trevor Kekana > > > > -- Blog at: http://domza.blogspot.com/ Communist University web site at: http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ Subscribe for free e-mail updates at: http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/ Library of documents (CU "CD") at: http://cu.domza.net/ [email protected] -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
