Hi Cadres Entertaining characters as opposed to engaging the issues in context will degenerate any debate and create another theatrical public grand standing .
Unfortunately there is no premace to move from on this matter. The statement has isolated a comment made about growing concerns of the current conflicts in the ANCYL. It has been blown out of context and insinuates that this was personal as opposed to being a genuine concern from Cde. Blade.... Its unfortunate that comrades always find room to personalise political matters. Discipline and common parlance shall prevail! Gugu On 8/21/10, Vincent Masoga <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would rather argue that our response to this kind of a statement > should not base itself on the precedents of attacks as set out by the > response to umsebenzi, rather to now surgecally open out to the public > & expose what Umsebenzi had constructively (truthfully so) reflected > as a problem that has engulfed the youth movement, that one of > tenderpreneurship or whatever you may call it, that it has broght a > threat of factional battles in the core fabric of the youth movement > such that it has become very seldom to witness a united front in the > youth movement that is vociferously attacking the offensives of the > enemy of the masses, capitalism. > > The General Secretary in Umsebenzi highlights a very important point > that not even a mediocre political analyst cannot claim ignorance to > it. The entire country has witnessed some dramatic scence of the ANCYL > that has seemed at war with itself, center to the perceieved war > presented as leadership contestations between traditionalist ANCYL > members who pose not particular reflection of allegience let alone > sympathy to the oppressed class, the class which constitute the > majority of young people who are supposedly represented by this > historically noble & gigantic organization. > > Like the disclaimer in Umsebenzi, it says Asikhulume. > > On 8/21/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let the dead bury their dead. > > > > Where's your reply? > > > > Or can we call it your surpass, Cde Gugu? > > > > > > VC > > > > > > > > > > On 21 August 2010 09:40, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> COMRADES > >> > >> Did you see this statement > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Nyiko Floyd Shivambu <[email protected]> > >> Date: Aug 21, 2010 8:57 AM > >> Subject: ANC YL Media ANC YOUTH LEAGUE’S RESPONSE TO STATEMENTS OF SACP > >> GENERAL SECRETARY BLADE NZIMANDE: > >> To: anc-yl-media <[email protected]>, > >> [email protected] > >> > >> ANC YOUTH LEAGUE’S RESPONSE TO STATEMENTS OF SACP GENERAL SECRETARY > >> BLADE NZIMANDE: > >> > >> 21 August 2010 > >> > >> In the article published on the SACP Online publication, Umsembenzi > >> Online, SACP General Secretary, Dr. Blade Nzimande says, “Ruth First, > >> as a leader of the YCL, and a supporter in building a revolutionary > >> youth league for the ANC in the 1940s, would have been deeply > >> disappointed about the current narrow and factionalist struggles > >> within the ANC Youth League. These factionalist and divisive struggles > >> within the ANCYL do not serve the interests of the youth of our > >> country today and into the future. A critical struggle today, in > >> honour and in memory of Ruth First, is that of defeating > >> tenderpreneurship within our youth structures, and to reposition the > >> YCL to play a vanguard and leading role in the struggles of working > >> class and poor youth of our country”. > >> > >> The ANC Youth League is disappointed by Dr. Nzimande’s observations > >> because they suggest that there are factionalist struggles and once > >> again continues with the undertone that there are so called > >> “tenderpreneurs” within the ANC Youth League. This kind of engagement > >> is a public spat and against what the African National Congress said > >> should never be done. The ANC Youth League would under normal > >> circumstances not respond to these lame, unscientific observations, > >> but because they have potential to mislead readers of Umsembenzi > >> online and followers to Dr. Nzimande, it is important that we clarify > >> some of these issues and altogether stand above attempts to label the > >> ANC YL. Our organisation is more serious than that. > >> > >> There is completely no narrow and factionalist struggle in the ANC > >> Youth League, but less than 5 ill-disciplined members and ex-members > >> of the ANC Youth League who misled branches, some of whom are expelled > >> and undergoing disciplinary action. The ANC leadership (which Dr. > >> Nzimande is part of) has collectively acknowledged that these elements > >> are ill-disciplined and instructed them to withdraw Court cases and > >> stop organising parallel activities of the ANC Youth League. It > >> appears that the honest organisational observation of the ANC and > >> decisive intervention is not noticed by Dr. Nzimande, he only sees > >> factional struggles, which are more of his imaginations than reality. > >> > >> Dr. Nzimande’s observations confirm the reports the ANC YL recurrently > >> received that some of the wayward and ill-disciplined elements in the > >> ANC Youth League are handled by the SACP. Now that the proverbial dogs > >> have been hit so hard, the handlers are coming out in cry foul and > >> present a picture that there is a factional problem in the ANC Youth > >> League. The continued label of tenderpreneurs is problematic and > >> suggests that the ANC Youth League is an organisation that pursues > >> tenders in a corrupt manner. Such is entirely not a reflection of > >> reality, and some of the allegations spread were cleared by the Public > >> Protector. > >> > >> The ANC Youth League advises Dr. Nzimande to stay out of issues he has > >> no comprehension of because some of the observations he makes have > >> potential to undermine his integrity as leader of the alliance. In the > >> future, it would be difficult to seek advice and counsel from Dr. > >> Nzimande because he is being embroiled in labelling the ANC Youth > >> League. Ruth First. whose political development within the youth > >> movement is traceable, would have been so disappointed by SACP Senior > >> leadership that bow so low to be associated and linked with imagined > >> “narrow and factional struggles” of the ANC Youth League. Perhaps the > >> suggestion of repositioning the YCL is important, because it would > >> stop being a lapdog and become a vibrant youth formation that robustly > >> mobilises society behind the SACP. Both the SACP and YCL should be > >> repositioned so that they are on the ideological Left of the ANC Youth > >> League, and would maybe begin to raise fundamental ideological > >> questions and stop imagining factional battles in the ANC YL. > >> > >> Issued by the ANC Youth League > >> Contact Floyd Shivambu, ANC Youth League Spokesperson > >> 0828199474 > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "ANC YL Media" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<anc-yl-media%[email protected]> > <anc-yl-media%[email protected]<anc-yl-media%[email protected]> > > > >> For more options, archive of previous releases, pages and files, please > >> visit this group's web site at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/anc-yl-media?hl=en > >> > >> -- > >> Gugu Ndima > >> +27 76 783 1516 > >> > >> -- > >> You are subscribed. 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