Hi Cadres

Entertaining characters as opposed to engaging the issues in context will
degenerate any debate and create another theatrical public grand standing .

Unfortunately there is no premace to move from on this matter. The statement
has isolated a comment made about growing concerns of  the current conflicts
in the ANCYL. It has been blown out of context and insinuates that this was
personal as opposed to being a genuine concern from Cde. Blade....

Its unfortunate that comrades always find room to personalise political
matters.

Discipline and common parlance shall prevail!


Gugu





On 8/21/10, Vincent Masoga <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would rather argue that our response to this kind of a statement
> should not base itself on the precedents of attacks as set out by the
> response to umsebenzi, rather to now surgecally open out to the public
> & expose what Umsebenzi had constructively (truthfully so) reflected
> as a problem that has engulfed the youth movement, that one of
> tenderpreneurship or whatever you may call it, that it has broght a
> threat of factional battles in the core fabric of the youth movement
> such that it has become very seldom to witness a united front in the
> youth movement that is vociferously attacking the offensives of the
> enemy of the masses, capitalism.
>
> The General Secretary in Umsebenzi highlights a very important point
> that not even a mediocre political analyst cannot claim ignorance to
> it. The entire country has witnessed some dramatic scence of the ANCYL
> that has seemed at war with itself, center to the perceieved war
> presented as leadership contestations between traditionalist ANCYL
> members who pose not particular reflection of allegience let alone
> sympathy to the oppressed class, the class which constitute the
> majority of young people who are supposedly represented by this
> historically noble & gigantic organization.
>
> Like the disclaimer in Umsebenzi, it says Asikhulume.
>
> On 8/21/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Let the dead bury their dead.
> >
> > Where's your reply?
> >
> > Or can we call it your surpass, Cde Gugu?
> >
> >
> > VC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 21 August 2010 09:40, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> COMRADES
> >>
> >> Did you see this statement
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Nyiko Floyd Shivambu <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Aug 21, 2010 8:57 AM
> >> Subject: ANC YL Media ANC YOUTH LEAGUE’S RESPONSE TO STATEMENTS OF SACP
> >> GENERAL SECRETARY BLADE NZIMANDE:
> >> To: anc-yl-media <[email protected]>,
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> ANC YOUTH LEAGUE’S RESPONSE TO STATEMENTS OF SACP GENERAL SECRETARY
> >> BLADE NZIMANDE:
> >>
> >> 21 August 2010
> >>
> >> In the article published on the SACP Online publication, Umsembenzi
> >> Online, SACP General Secretary, Dr. Blade Nzimande says, “Ruth First,
> >> as a leader of the YCL, and a supporter in building a revolutionary
> >> youth league for the ANC in the 1940s, would have been deeply
> >> disappointed about the current narrow and factionalist struggles
> >> within the ANC Youth League. These factionalist and divisive struggles
> >> within the ANCYL do not serve the interests of the youth of our
> >> country today and into the future. A critical struggle today, in
> >> honour and in memory of Ruth First, is that of defeating
> >> tenderpreneurship within our youth structures, and to reposition the
> >> YCL to play a vanguard and leading role in the struggles of working
> >> class and poor youth of our country”.
> >>
> >> The ANC Youth League is disappointed by Dr. Nzimande’s observations
> >> because they suggest that there are factionalist struggles and once
> >> again continues with the undertone that there are so called
> >> “tenderpreneurs” within the ANC Youth League. This kind of engagement
> >> is a public spat and against what the African National Congress said
> >> should never be done. The ANC Youth League would under normal
> >> circumstances not respond to these lame, unscientific observations,
> >> but because they have potential to mislead readers of Umsembenzi
> >> online and followers to Dr. Nzimande, it is important that we clarify
> >> some of these issues and altogether stand above attempts to label the
> >> ANC YL. Our organisation is more serious than that.
> >>
> >> There is completely no narrow and factionalist struggle in the ANC
> >> Youth League, but less than 5 ill-disciplined members and ex-members
> >> of the ANC Youth League who misled branches, some of whom are expelled
> >> and undergoing disciplinary action. The ANC leadership (which Dr.
> >> Nzimande is part of) has collectively acknowledged that these elements
> >> are ill-disciplined and instructed them to withdraw Court cases and
> >> stop organising parallel activities of the ANC Youth League. It
> >> appears that the honest organisational observation of the ANC and
> >> decisive intervention is not noticed by Dr. Nzimande, he only sees
> >> factional struggles, which are more of his imaginations than reality.
> >>
> >> Dr. Nzimande’s observations confirm the reports the ANC YL recurrently
> >> received that some of the wayward and ill-disciplined elements in the
> >> ANC Youth League are handled by the SACP. Now that the proverbial dogs
> >> have been hit so hard, the handlers are coming out in cry foul and
> >> present a picture that there is a factional problem in the ANC Youth
> >> League. The continued label of tenderpreneurs is problematic and
> >> suggests that the ANC Youth League is an organisation that pursues
> >> tenders in a corrupt manner. Such is entirely not a reflection of
> >> reality, and some of the allegations spread were cleared by the Public
> >> Protector.
> >>
> >> The ANC Youth League advises Dr. Nzimande to stay out of issues he has
> >> no comprehension of because some of the observations he makes have
> >> potential to undermine his integrity as leader of the alliance. In the
> >> future, it would be difficult to seek advice and counsel from Dr.
> >> Nzimande because he is being embroiled in labelling the ANC Youth
> >> League.  Ruth First. whose political development within the youth
> >> movement is traceable, would have been so disappointed by SACP Senior
> >> leadership that bow so low to be associated and linked with imagined
> >> “narrow and factional struggles” of the ANC Youth League. Perhaps the
> >> suggestion of repositioning the YCL is important, because it would
> >> stop being a lapdog and become a vibrant youth formation that robustly
> >> mobilises society behind the SACP. Both the SACP and YCL should be
> >> repositioned so that they are on the ideological Left of the ANC Youth
> >> League, and would maybe begin to raise fundamental ideological
> >> questions and stop imagining factional battles in the ANC YL.
> >>
> >> Issued by the ANC Youth League
> >> Contact Floyd Shivambu, ANC Youth League Spokesperson
> >> 0828199474
> >>
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