Ngiyabonga Sent from my Nokia phone -----Original Message----- From: Gugu Ndima Sent: 06/10/2010 9:04:18 pm Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: YCLSA ON DA’s OBSURD PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF LRA FOR UNION STRIKES
Comrade Sabelo, I was merely cautioning that we remain objective when we engage No I could never hold a grugde for a fellow comrade leader..Kudlulile!! Regards Gugu On 10/6/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Gugu, what have i done now? Are you telling me about a grudge that you have? > My apologies if your read emotions in the words I wrote. Comradely, Cedric > > Sent from my Nokia phone > -----Original Message----- > From: Gugu Ndima > Sent: 06/10/2010 5:07:42 pm > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: YCLSA ON DA’s OBSURD PROPOSED > AMENDMENT OF LRA FOR UNION STRIKES > > Cadre Sabelo, we must equally appreciate criticism and be able to bring > sober clarity to fellow comrades so they understand the our stance > > I remember not so long you had accused me of being a Molefe when I humbly > made an attempt to correct some of the deviations which were taking place in > the forum. As a senior leader I think its best that you make Cde. Thabang > understand the current contradictions and our role as the vanguard. We > should minimise being emotional so as to avoid clouding core issues > > I do not recall at any stage Thabang where the YCL and SACP misled the > working class particularly when it relates to the state apparatus and > machinery used at times to oppress the working class, or hinder with their > right to demand for better employment conditions. > > Infact the YCL has been very vocal about police brutality, lack of service > delivery and our branches have been very visible in the very same service > delivery protests. When the Police commissioner boldly took to the streets > to pronounce on shoot to kill, we were very clear on our stance to a point > where the Minister himself requested that we meet on this issue...we have > never back-tracked or been apologetic on advocating for the working class > and the poor. > > The YCLSA made submissions together with Unions on the Banning of Labour > brokers and we continue to to work on the ground with young workers who are > subjected to such injustices. > > Ours is not to parade our victories and calls for change in society. There > are a number of campaigns which now find resonance with other political > formations and the government, where the SACP and the YCL were the > champions. But there is no intellectual property of the revolution and ours > is only to advance it. We are not in the Olympics nor are we contesting > anyone. Ours is to boldly fight Capitalism and the > socio-economic disparates it continues to perpetuate in our society. > > Let us also take note of the fact that the are members of the ANC who > members of the SACP as much as we are all members of the PYA. we should not > at any stage be apologetic about being members in all Alliance components. > Lets also keep in mind that the ANC is broader church, contested by various > class components. This will emanate even within the State. the State still > remains untransformed and that continues to be a challenge particularly for > the working class and the poor. > > > Regards > > Cde. Gugu > > > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM, [email protected] <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> Thabang, i am sure you were angry when you wrote your input. Elders have >> cautined me not to write when i am angry and i took their advice. I would >> suggest that you do the same. It is not good to generalise when discussing >> important matters of the national democratic revolution. Comradely, Sabelo >> >> Sent from my Nokia phone >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thabang Ngcozela >> Sent: 05/10/2010 6:01:01 pm >> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: YCLSA ON DA’s OBSURD PROPOSED >> AMENDMENT OF LRA FOR UNION STRIKES >> >> maybe it is important to indicate as well that the anc as the party in >> charge of the state machinery is the employer that also promotes >> anti-worker >> policies and working conditions that inflicts the same injustices the da >> advances. it is hypocritical for the yclsa to pretend that the da is the >> only party that advances these injustices because the anc does exacle the >> same. For how long will the sacp and yclsa will they continue to be >> apologetic for the anc and mislead the working class to believe that there >> are fundemental difference between the da and anc. They all stand for >> capitalism, which is the natural enemy of the working class. >> >> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:59:04 +0200 >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: YCLSA ON DA’s OBSURD PROPOSED AMENDMENT >> OF >> LRA FOR UNION STRIKES >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> YCLSA ON DA’s OBSURD PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF LRA FOR UNION STRIKES >> >> >> 5 OCTOBER 2010 >> >> >> The Young Communist League of >> South Africa (uFasimba) is appalled but not shocked by the ignorance >> demonstrated by the DA in their proposal to parliament to amend the Labour >> Relations Act. The proposed amendments are to ensure that Unions who >> embark >> on >> a strike will be held liable for any property damaged during strikes. The >> amendment >> further demands that Unions put in place measures to prevent violence, >> injury and >> damage to property; this insinuates that all property damaged and violence >> during strikes is caused by workers. >> >> >> These proposals unfortunately >> expose the ignorance and blatant misconception of what a strike is >> according to >> the DA and equally the objectives of a strike. A strike unfortunately is >> not a >> spontaneous event which is a result of a caucus of a few individuals who >> have >> nothing better to do with their time. A strike culminates from a strenuous >> exercise >> of negotiations and bargaining with stakeholders involved. It is a last >> resort >> which Unions only embark on when deemed necessary. Further to that, no >> Union >> has ever encouraged violence and hooliganism whenever unions take to the >> streets. >> >> >> The violence that DA’s supposedly >> sees is as a result of the intransigent attitude demonstrated by Employers >> or >> Management who undermine the right of workers to strike and resort to >> utilising >> police brutality and violence to avoid proper negotiations and giving >> workers >> what they rightfully demand, in their cause to emancipate themselves from >> perpetual exploitation and harsh working conditions. When police shoot >> randomly >> and go on a rampage against workers, there is little reprimanding as such >> maliciousness is viewed by the likes of the DA as the restoration of Law >> and >> order. >> >> >> The DA should perhaps consider >> mobilising its elite constituency which mainly consists predominantly of >> the >> culprits that refuse to meet worker demands, to abolish Labour broking, >> give >> workers a decent living wage and probably leave their well-furnished, >> air-conditioned >> offices to see some of the harsh conditions they subject workers to. >> >> As the YCLSA we are well aware >> that it’s the inherent nature and character of the DA to take such >> distorted >> and antagonistic postures when it comes to worker issues. We advise that >> the DA >> starts a process of conscientizing its members about worker struggles in >> our >> country and propose progressive amendments which will expose Employers of >> this >> country and hold them accountable for exploitation and further more join >> us >> in >> the call to Ban Labour brokers within the very same LRA they want to >> amend. >> >> >> Unions are a dire necessity given >> the state of our private and public sector. Despite progressive laws in >> place >> within the LRA, employers continue to find ways to deviate from them and >> this >> creates the patterns of resistance and ultimately workers taking to the >> streets >> to fight these socio-economic injustices. The proposed >> amendment by the DA is another way to suppress and undermine workers >> rights >> to >> strike, as the YCLSA we call for the proposal to be shelved as it has no >> place >> in our democracy. >> >> >> Issued by the YCLSA Head office >> >> Contact >> >> Gugu Ndima >> >> National spokesperson >> >> 076 783 1516 >> >> -- >> Gugu Ndima >> +27 76 783 1516 >> >> >> >> -- >> Gugu Ndima >> +27 76 783 1516 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to >> this message. >> >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. >> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >> put anything in the message part. 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