Dear Comrades; Is nt it ironic that some of our decisions as the ANC decisions do not find expression within the democratic state?
I find it hard to believe that the whole matter is now a Nzimande issue because as far as Polokwane's decisions are concerned the deployed cadre (our GS) implemented this decision. Should nt there be a collective responsibility in this court decision? Comrade THOMO On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:50 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > James your posting confirms this a tweedie forum > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > ------------------------------ > *From: *James Tweedie <[email protected]> > *Sender: *[email protected] > *Date: *Wed, 4 May 2011 09:45:41 +0100 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: *[email protected] > *Subject: *Re: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Judge overturns Minister Nzim ande’s > decision > > Done as you requested Freedom. > > I am one of the new group moderators by the way. > > James > > On 4 May 2011 09:42, freedom ngubonde <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi! Dominic and all cormades >> >> Please stop sending me emails to this address ( >> [email protected]), you can only sent the emails to >> [email protected] >> >> Thank you! >> >> Freedom_ >> >> >> >> On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:32:00 +0100 James Tweedie wrote >> >> >> What happened to "The people shall govern"? >> >> >> On 4 May 2011 05:54, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> [image: Business Day] >>> >>> >>> Judge rules Nzimande’s Seta ‘grab’ out of order >>> >>> Court will now hear plea to undo minister’s transfer of R1bn funds >>> >>> >>> Sue Blaine, Business Day, Johannesburg, 4 April 2011 >>> >>> HIGHER Education and Training Minister Blade Nzimande’s controversial >>> attempt to shake up SA’s training agencies was dealt a stunning blow in >>> court yesterday. >>> >>> A Labour Court judge ruled Mr Nzimande did not have the legal power to >>> impose a new constitution on the Services Seta, and that the constitution he >>> had tried to impose was in breach of the Skills Development Act. >>> >>> Judge Annelie Basson also ruled Mr Nzimande’s appointment of former >>> African National Congress (ANC) office bearer Sihle Moon as chairman of the >>> Seta was invalid, as was his appointment of a new council, one of whose >>> members was Nolwande Mantashe, wife of ANC secretary- general Gwede >>> Mantashe. >>> >>> Today, the Services Seta will return to the Johannesburg Labour Court, to >>> ask it to overturn Mr Nzimande’s decision last week to transf er R1bn from >>> its bank account to the National Skills Fund. Parliament heard earlier this >>> year that the fund had a budget deficit of just under R1bn. >>> >>> Attorney Itayi Gwaunza, who represents Services Seta CEO Ivor Blumenthal >>> and eight others, said the ruling could have implications for all Setas, >>> which were asked to sign the same constitution. >>> >>> Mr Nzimande’s spokesman, Nqaba Nqandela, said the Department of Higher >>> Education and the minister were "still studying" the judgment before >>> commenting. >>> >>> He did not answer questions on why Mr Nzimande transferred the Services >>> Seta’s funds to the National Skills Fund, and why he placed the Seta under >>> administration while the Labour Court judgment was pending. >>> >>> Mr Blumenthal said he was "relieved" at Judge Basson’s judgment, and was >>> "relatively upbeat" about today’s application. >>> >>> "It’s not an us-or-them situation. We are really trying to find a way of >>> accommodating our stakeholders’ concerns and what the minister is trying to >>> achieve, which is better administration and governance of the Setas. We are >>> not against that, but it must be done procedurally," he said. >>> >>> Mr Nzimande’s actions against the Services Seta appear to be linked to >>> his promise last year to change legislation if necessary to exert his >>> executive authority over the Setas. They were placed under his department by >>> President Jacob Zuma in terms of an ANC decision at its Polokwane >>> conference. >>> >>> He has since criticised the Setas for uneven performance and for not >>> spending National Skills Fund monies. He has threatened to confiscate Seta >>> funds and use them for other skills training. >>> >>> Reforming skills training is in Mr Nzimande’s performance agreement, >>> signed in 2009 with President Jacob Zuma. It commits him to produce 10000 >>> artisans a year by 2015 from about 8000 now. Yesterday, Mr Nzimande said SA >>> had invested a lot of its skills levy fund — accumulated from a 1% levy on >>> payrolls of businesses with an annual turnover of at least R500000 — on >>> short courses of "dubious value", while there was a shortage of artisans, >>> accountants and engineers. >>> >>> "We can’t have a training system that is 75%-80% short course (-based) >>> ... We need to begin to be more biased towards a structured occupational >>> trade and professional programme, because that is where we are short," he >>> said in Pretoria after addressing a meeting of professional bodies. >>> >>> Judge Basson ruled that Mr Nzimande did not have the necessary legal >>> power to impose a new constitution on the Services Seta and, even if he had, >>> the new constitution was in breach of the Skills Development Act. >>> >>> It was argued before Judge Basson last month that Ms Mantashe had no >>> qualifications for the appointment. 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