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Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:50:19 
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        Nzim ande’s decision

James your posting confirms this a tweedie forum
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From: James Tweedie <[email protected]>
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:45:41 
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Subject: Re: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Judge overturns Minister 
        Nzim ande’s decision

Done as you requested Freedom.

I am one of the new group moderators by the way.

James

On 4 May 2011 09:42, freedom ngubonde <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi! Dominic and all cormades
>
> Please stop sending me emails to this address ([email protected]),
> you can only sent the emails to [email protected]
>
> Thank you!
>
> Freedom_
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:32:00 +0100 James Tweedie wrote
>
>
> What happened to "The people shall govern"?
>
>
> On 4 May 2011 05:54, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> [image: Business Day]
>>
>>
>> Judge rules Nzimande’s Seta ‘grab’ out of order
>>
>> Court will now hear plea to undo minister’s transfer of R1bn funds
>>
>>
>> Sue Blaine, Business Day, Johannesburg, 4 April 2011
>>
>> HIGHER Education and Training Minister Blade Nzimande’s controversial
>> attempt to shake up SA’s training agencies was dealt a stunning blow in
>> court yesterday.
>>
>> A Labour Court judge ruled Mr Nzimande did not have the legal power to
>> impose a new constitution on the Services Seta, and that the constitution he
>> had tried to impose was in breach of the Skills Development Act.
>>
>> Judge Annelie Basson also ruled Mr Nzimande’s appointment of former
>> African National Congress (ANC) office bearer Sihle Moon as chairman of the
>> Seta was invalid, as was his appointment of a new council, one of whose
>> members was Nolwande Mantashe, wife of ANC secretary- general Gwede
>> Mantashe.
>>
>> Today, the Services Seta will return to the Johannesburg Labour Court, to
>> ask it to overturn Mr Nzimande’s decision last week to transf er R1bn from
>> its bank account to the National Skills Fund. Parliament heard earlier this
>> year that the fund had a budget deficit of just under R1bn.
>>
>> Attorney Itayi Gwaunza, who represents Services Seta CEO Ivor Blumenthal
>> and eight others, said the ruling could have implications for all Setas,
>> which were asked to sign the same constitution.
>>
>> Mr Nzimande’s spokesman, Nqaba Nqandela, said the Department of Higher
>> Education and the minister were "still studying" the judgment before
>> commenting.
>>
>> He did not answer questions on why Mr Nzimande transferred the Services
>> Seta’s funds to the National Skills Fund, and why he placed the Seta under
>> administration while the Labour Court judgment was pending.
>>
>> Mr Blumenthal said he was "relieved" at Judge Basson’s judgment, and was
>> "relatively upbeat" about today’s application.
>>
>> "It’s not an us-or-them situation. We are really trying to find a way of
>> accommodating our stakeholders’ concerns and what the minister is trying to
>> achieve, which is better administration and governance of the Setas. We are
>> not against that, but it must be done procedurally," he said.
>>
>> Mr Nzimande’s actions against the Services Seta appear to be linked to his
>> promise last year to change legislation if necessary to exert his executive
>> authority over the Setas. They were placed under his department by President
>> Jacob Zuma in terms of an ANC decision at its Polokwane conference.
>>
>> He has since criticised the Setas for uneven performance and for not
>> spending National Skills Fund monies. He has threatened to confiscate Seta
>> funds and use them for other skills training.
>>
>> Reforming skills training is in Mr Nzimande’s performance agreement,
>> signed in 2009 with President Jacob Zuma. It commits him to produce 10000
>> artisans a year by 2015 from about 8000 now. Yesterday, Mr Nzimande said SA
>> had invested a lot of its skills levy fund — accumulated from a 1% levy on
>> payrolls of businesses with an annual turnover of at least R500000 — on
>> short courses of "dubious value", while there was a shortage of artisans,
>> accountants and engineers.
>>
>> "We can’t have a training system that is 75%-80% short course (-based) ...
>> We need to begin to be more biased towards a structured occupational trade
>> and professional programme, because that is where we are short," he said in
>> Pretoria after addressing a meeting of professional bodies.
>>
>> Judge Basson ruled that Mr Nzimande did not have the necessary legal power
>> to impose a new constitution on the Services Seta and, even if he had, the
>> new constitution was in breach of the Skills Development Act.
>>
>> It was argued before Judge Basson last month that Ms Mantashe had no
>> qualifications for the appointment. With Sapa
>>
>> [email protected]
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>> From: http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=141615
>>
>>
>>
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